Irish Poker Championships: Day 1 - Interactive

[Djinn]

Hard to tell red. Was the guy ultra tight, if so, maybe.
I think you played it right, you want to know if your losing preflop and a raise of any less doesnt send the right message.

You said he had the biggest stack on the table and wasn't the tightest cookie in the jar, so absolutely no problem.  If he'd called and trapped you could have indeed lost more, as someone who got there first said earlier.

[ollyk1]

I think you may have overplayed them but in this case you may have saved youself chips in the specific hand as a result.

It's not something you can say definitively because there are a lot of factors including was the BB playing loose generally, or only with position? Was he generally reraising from the BB? It's hard to be defiinitve based on the info given but I personally don't generally like the rereraise with QQ. But what do I know. What I would say is if your table imade is as tight as Alex says then unless the guy is a real bad player he's going to find it diffcult to make a mistake in this hand after you've reraised him. I hate letting them off the hook like that.

P.S. Hard luck in any event and better luck tomorrow.

[Djinn]

Decision for John Poland - he'd raised preflop after an early limper to 1,750 (blinds 200/400 ante 50).  The limper took his time and called.
Flop:  .  Limper - Thomas Finneran - checks, John bet 3,500 (leaving himself around 10k behind).  Thomas moves in, with a slightly bigger stack.
The dwell that came after looked as tortured as they get, with the talking-to-himself and the pot counting and everything.  But eventually he passes and would clearly liked to have seen to what...

[AlexMartin]

I think you may have overplayed them but in this case you may have saved youself chips in the specific hand as a result.

It's not something you can say definitively becasue there are a lot of factors including was the BB playing loose generally, or only with position? Was he generally reraising from the BB? It's hard to be defiitve based on the info given but I personally don't generally like the rereraise with QQ. But what do I know. What I would say if yis if your table imade is as tight as Alex says then unles the guy is a real bad player he's going to find it diffcult to make a mistake in this hand after you've rerasied him. I hate letting them off the hook like that.

Iv been working up your tight image red-dog. Should come in handy one day.

[RED-DOG]

Hard to tell red. Was the guy ultra tight, if so, maybe.
I think you played it right, you want to know if your losing preflop and a raise of any less doesnt send the right message.

I read him as kinda loose/aggressive. I saw him call a raise in the bb with Q3, mind you, he did hit a Q on the flop, a Q on the turn, and a 3 on the river!

[snoopy1239]

181 left, average stack = 17,127...

Enda MacGearty -- 7,450
Richie Lawler -- 21,475
Matt Tyler -- 16,775
Jim Reid -- 5,275
Roy Brindley -- 22,750
Lam Trinh -- 40,200
Rob Taylor -- 23,600
Ken Powell -- 24,475
Michael Muldoon -- 12,300
Paul Morrow -- 33,000
David McGreachie -- 7,050
Nik Slade -- 17,000
John Keown -- 50,000
Rob Garfield -- 5,625
Karl Mahrenholz -- 12,300
Eddie the Eagle -- 3,450
Joe Grech -- 14,175
Chris Huyton -- 8,775
Ian Woodley -- 15,825
Carlo Citrone -- 12,600
C Constantinou -- 25,800
George Geary -- 6,725
Peter Evans -- 13,600
Thomas Dunwoody -- 17,625
tikay -- 11,075
Toni Dicesare -- 8,650
Terry Grimley -- 66,200

[snoopy1239]

Hard to tell red. Was the guy ultra tight, if so, maybe.
I think you played it right, you want to know if your losing preflop and a raise of any less doesnt send the right message.

I read him as kinda loose/aggressive. I saw him call a raise in the bb with Q3, mind you, he did hit a Q on the flop, a Q on the turn, and a 3 on the river!

I think you played them fine. You have to make the re-re-raise to find out where you stand, otherwise you're going into the flop blind and will have to rely on guesswork.

[snoopy1239]

The following players are all OUT:

Mick McCool
Dave Masters
Ashley Hayles
Lawrence Gosney
Jim Kerrigan
Iwan Jones
John Magill
Padraig Parkinson
John Tabatabai
Liam Flood
Chaz Chatta
Ian Frazer


Missing, presumed lost:

Ryan Fronda
Alan McLean

[Djinn]

I see Matt doing some explaining, as he walks off his table with no chips and the rest of the players are scattered around the room.  "Rivered again," he mutters downheartedly.  "I turned the straight, but his trips housed up on the river."  He was, until now, vying with Nick Slade for "Yo-Yo of the day" but seeing as he's just been eliminated that leaves Mr. Slade to take the trophy.

[Djinn]

Carlo Citrone is OUT.  He flopped two pair to someone else's straight.  Short and sharp and no house on the river for him.

[ollyk1]

Hard to tell red. Was the guy ultra tight, if so, maybe.
I think you played it right, you want to know if your losing preflop and a raise of any less doesnt send the right message.

I read him as kinda loose/aggressive. I saw him call a raise in the bb with Q3, mind you, he did hit a Q on the flop, a Q on the turn, and a 3 on the river!

I think you played them fine. You have to make the re-re-raise to find out where you stand, otherwise you're going into the flop blind and will have to rely on guesswork.

Gotta disagree with that on principle Snoopy. Re-re-raising makes Red-Dog's hand range pretty transparent and QQ is at the lower end of that range. A halfwit gets away from any pocket pair less then and including jacks and AQ downwards. So what are we left with? 

AK, AA, KK or QQcalling us or else we win ~2k and we don't get a chance to hit that Queen high flop that was surely coming!! LOL

That last bet preflop is inflating the pot massively and almost pot commiting us to any move on the flop and allowing our opponent to play almost flawlessly from now on because we are playing our cards face up. This would be a good move if we had sooted connectors or the like becasue at least we'd be playing a deceptive hand. But in this spot we have exactly what we are representing. Raising for info isn't a good move here imho. By the way I'm not having a go at you REd-Dog as I've made this mistake myself plenty of times but I'm just giving my opinion on the subject based on the info given. I wasn't there and I don't know the opponent.

[snoopy1239]

And not forgetting the locals, here are a three notable Irish counts.

Conor Smyth -- 16,550

[snoopy1239]

Noel Hayes -- 16,800

[snoopy1239]

Christie Smith -- 8,200

[snoopy1239]

Hard to tell red. Was the guy ultra tight, if so, maybe.
I think you played it right, you want to know if your losing preflop and a raise of any less doesnt send the right message.

I read him as kinda loose/aggressive. I saw him call a raise in the bb with Q3, mind you, he did hit a Q on the flop, a Q on the turn, and a 3 on the river!

I think you played them fine. You have to make the re-re-raise to find out where you stand, otherwise you're going into the flop blind and will have to rely on guesswork.

Gotta disagree with that on principle Snoopy. Re-re-raising makes Red-Dog's hand range pretty transparent and QQ is at the lower end of that range. A halfwit gets away from any pocket pair less then and including jacks and AQ downwards. So what are we left with? 

AK, AA, KK or QQcalling us or else we win ~2k and we don't get a chance to hit that Queen high flop that was surely coming!! LOL

That last bet preflop is inflating the pot massively and almost pot commiting us to any move on the flop and allowing our opponent to play almost flawlessly from now on because we are playing our cards face up. This would be a good move if we had sooted connectors or the like becasue at least we'd be playing a deceptive hand. But in this spot we have exactly what we are representing. Raising for info isn't a good move here imho. By the way I'm not having a go at you REd-Dog as I've made this mistake myself plenty of times but I'm just giving my opinion on the subject based on the info given. I wasn't there and I don't know the opponent.

You're worried about him flatcalling with his Aces or Kings and playing them flawlessly, but I would have thought he'd get the chips anyhow on the Flop with a check-raise if Red just called.