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« on: January 07, 2007, 06:48:45 PM »

10 - NL - 6 Seats - Turbo 14655240-23 Holdem No Limit 1,600/3,200
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : Hand Start.
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : Seat 2 : rosull244 has $4,960
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : Seat 5 : Jedwick99 has $3,520
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : Seat 6 : luckyducky3 has $3,520
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : luckyducky3 is the dealer.
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : rosull244 posted small blind.
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : Jedwick99 posted big blind.
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : Game [23] started with 3 players.
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jan 7 18:25:15] : Seat 5 : Jedwick99 has
[Jan 7 18:25:22] : luckyducky3 called 3,200
[Jan 7 18:25:28] : Stakes: 1,600/3,200 Current level: 12 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Jan 7 18:25:36] : rosull244 has 10 seconds to respond.
[Jan 7 18:25:37] : rosull244 called 1,600 and raised 1,760 and is All-in
[Jan 7 18:25:37] : Under-Raise rules are now in effect.
[Jan 7 18:25:41] : Jedwick99 called 320 and is All-in
[Jan 7 18:25:43] : luckyducky3 called 320 and is All-in
[Jan 7 18:25:44] : Showdown!
[Jan 7 18:25:44] : Seat 5 : Jedwick99 has
[Jan 7 18:25:46] : Seat 2 : rosull244 has
[Jan 7 18:25:46] : Seat 5 : Jedwick99 has
[Jan 7 18:25:46] : Seat 6 : luckyducky3 has
[Jan 7 18:25:48] : Stakes: 1,600/3,200 Current level: 12 Next level in: 1 min. 
[Jan 7 18:25:55] : Board cards [Ah Two Clubs ]
[Jan 7 18:25:55] : Seat 2 : rosull244 has
[Jan 7 18:25:55] : rosull244 has Pair:
[Jan 7 18:25:55] : Seat 5 : Jedwick99 has
[Jan 7 18:25:55] : Jedwick99 has High Card : Ace
[Jan 7 18:25:55] : Seat 6 : luckyducky3 has
[Jan 7 18:25:55] : luckyducky3 has High Card : Ace
[Jan 7 18:25:55] : rosull244 wins 10,560 with Pair:
[Jan 7 18:26:04] : Hand is over.


I'm very confused, we are all all in and the chip leader wins, me and luckyduck had the same amount of chips so how come he was awarded the 2nd place finish and the money?? I had the better hand at showdown? surely this is a fault!! I have started the live chat and the manager is saying he will get bak to me, has anyone else had this problem before? or what rules are in place that denies me 2nd???

I will keep you posted on what i said
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 06:54:23 PM »

you should split 2nd

what site was this on
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2007, 07:08:27 PM »

this was on blonde, here's what was said when i started manager chat, i'm not very happy, it seems a ridiculus rule, makes me want to just withdraw my funds and move somewhere else!!!

18:27:03): Please wait... contacting available host.
(18:27:03): Player 'Jedwick99' joined chat.
(18:27:15): Host 'Host-MarkB' joined chat.
Host-MarkB (18:27:21): Hi, welcome to our poker room.  How can I help you?
Jedwick99 (18:27:46): I was just in a 10dollar six seater turbo
Jedwick99 (18:28:31): there was a chip leader and me and another player had equal chips, we all go all in and i dont understand why he got awarded the 2nd place finish and the money
Jedwick99 (18:28:52): sorry, the chip leader won the hand
Host-MarkB (18:29:05): 1 sec
Jedwick99 (18:34:58): are you still there
Host-MarkB (18:35:14): i am still here
Jedwick99 (18:35:23): good
Host-MarkB (18:35:45): rosull244 showed his cards Pair:
Host-MarkB (18:35:54): that is why he came first
Jedwick99 (18:36:00): thats fine
Jedwick99 (18:36:05): but who came second?
Jedwick99 (18:36:31): i didnt recieve any funds so it must have been  "luckyducky3"
Host-MarkB (18:36:38): yes
Host-MarkB (18:36:43): he came second
Jedwick99 (18:36:46): even though we had equal chips?
Jedwick99 (18:36:53): how was this decided?
Jedwick99 (18:37:04): i had the better hand at showdown
Host-MarkB (18:37:57): i will get back to you on this one
Jedwick99 (18:38:02): ok
Jedwick99 (18:38:04): thanks
Jedwick99 (18:38:18): when should i expect a reply?
Host-MarkB (18:38:26): give me 10 mins
Host-MarkB (18:38:33): i will see the game play again
Jedwick99 (18:38:33): thanks
Host-MarkB (18:45:34): ok
Jedwick99 (18:45:41): hi
Host-MarkB (18:46:05): you posted the big blind right?
Jedwick99 (18:46:11): yes
Host-MarkB (18:46:26): that is the reason the 2 nd place was awared to the other plyer
Host-MarkB (18:46:43): even tho both had same hands at showdown
Jedwick99 (18:46:51): that doesnt make any sense. surely the prize should be halved
Host-MarkB (18:47:07): first amount of chips .. then closest to the dealer .. ie the worst position
Jedwick99 (18:47:29): is that the rule? surely the second best hand should take it
Host-MarkB (18:47:53): nope that is the rule Mr Richardson.
(18:59:55): Chat session has been terminated.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2007, 07:19:10 PM »

I can see more logic in their position than yours.

Equal chips so then nearest to button, luckyducky was button.

I'm not convinced it should be done on hand rankings when you are level in chips preflop. It is a very unusual situation though.
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2007, 07:22:08 PM »

surely it shud be halved then? i think to give it to the player with position is a pretty poor way to decide, it should either be second best hand or split the prize
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2007, 07:39:12 PM »

surely it shud be halved then? i think to give it to the player with position is a pretty poor way to decide, it should either be second best hand or split the prize

I think its just the way the software is. It showed your hand down first so guess it puts you third. Its a bummer but I don't think I'd withdraw my 'roll from a site because of something that happens very rarely.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2007, 07:39:40 PM »

well under there rules you should of won it as you were furthest from the dealer

but the rule should be if both players have equal chips and lose in the same hand then they both share te same spot
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2007, 07:43:10 PM »

Just had a call from Iron about this. I will get it sorted please bear with me.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2007, 07:44:04 PM »

thanks, and thanks iron
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