Tribeca NL players

[snoopy1239]

What if the two playing heads up are colluding??

[AndrewT]

What if the two playing heads up are colluding??

That's nothing - I collude at Solitaire.

[tikay]

What if the two playing heads up are colluding??

That's nothing - I collude at Solitaire.

But there are  card-games where you are supposed to collude - ironically, one of them is called "Solo"...!

Anyone remember that? Solo, (5 tricks) Abundance ("Bundle") 9 tricks, Royal Abundance (9 tricks in the nominated suit), Mezzaire (sp), Mezzaire-Avere (sp). I adored playing Mezzaire. For those not aware, Mezzaire is a "Solo" game option in which you have to LOSE tricks, Mezzaire Avere is the same except you have to lose every trick (13) but before the round starts, but after losing the first trick, you place your cards FACE UP on the table. I really was vey good at Mezz - I guess that's where I learned to play losing hands.

[M3boy]

No Tikay, I dont remember that one, however you are just older than me ;p

My first card experience was playing NAP (or is it KNAP?) with nan and grandad on Sunday evenings - GREAT game!

[tikay]

No Tikay, I dont remember that one, however you are just older than me ;p

My first card experience was playing NAP (or is it KNAP?) with nan and grandad on Sunday evenings - GREAT game!

Nap - abbreviation for "Napoleon" - is the same thing as Solo really. Sort of.

[Dewi_cool]

I used to play nap in the pub, if you made a mistake you got barred

[tikay]

I used to play nap in the pub, if you made a mistake you got barred

As you damn well should, because that spoiled it for the other players.

[kinboshi]

No Tikay, I dont remember that one, however you are just older than me ;p

My first card experience was playing NAP (or is it KNAP?) with nan and grandad on Sunday evenings - GREAT game!

I played cards with Napoleon when I was a lad.

 

[tikay]

No Tikay, I dont remember that one, however you are just older than me ;p

My first card experience was playing NAP (or is it KNAP?) with nan and grandad on Sunday evenings - GREAT game!

I played cards with Napoleon when I was a lad.

 

Shut it you. Right?

[Eskabor]

Here is my recent chat with svindle. A really nice guy. He won't clearly come out and say he is cheating this time, but it should be obvious now. Otherwise he could post his names and the names of his friends. Could some handsome whiteguy ask them from him so people will know for sure?
LOL.

Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8727742&an=0&page=1#Post8727742
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
you should probably come defend yourself.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Or admit to it.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Come and lie though, ill post our chats and your screenames
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
So don't try and lie and make me look like a lieing fuck.
Sindre Sturle says:
lol
Sindre Sturle says:
why are you saying things like this?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Because they are true.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You trying to say they aren't?
Sindre Sturle says:
its not true..and because your broke then start acting like a *****? you even owe me rakeback..but i never asked about it..to be nice
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Because I'm broke?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Why would I expose YOU if it wasn't true because I was fucking broke?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Come on man use your brain, i got hundreds of contacts and some of them high profile players than you. Why would I expose you, what makes you special?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I don't care if you tried to be nice, and I owe alot of people rakeback because of the BOS thing, but I didnt get paid so what do you want me to do?
Sindre Sturle says:
i have 0,00 at svindle account and brennevin got 0,00
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
What were your accounts again?
Sindre Sturle says:
what are you trying to win at this?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Nothing. I'm exposing you like I wish I could of before
Sindre Sturle says:
its not mine account
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
It's not right for you to cheat like this.
Sindre Sturle says:
my account is svindle
Sindre Sturle says:
and i went to school with brennevin
Sindre Sturle says:
played same tables many times
Sindre Sturle says:
but not as a team
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
LoL
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Not sure why you are lieing now
Sindre Sturle says:
you are broke and bitter
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
When you've admitted it to me before
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I'm not bitter at you svindle
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I respected you till you cheated.
Sindre Sturle says:
you are a very terrible player eskabor
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Thank you svindle, post your pokertracker stats vs me.
Sindre Sturle says:
everyone says im a cheeter..im just too good
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Svindle
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I don't care what other people call you
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You are a cheater.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You've admitted it to me.
Sindre Sturle says:
im the most winning at tribecca
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I don't know if you cheat all the time... but I've seen you cheat
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I warned you to stop, didn't I?
Sindre Sturle says:
im the star escabor
Sindre Sturle says:
you are a broke loser
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Doesn't mean you should cheat
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
If you are so good you shouldn't cheat.
Sindre Sturle says:
you are like a litle black gangsterboy
Sindre Sturle says:
get a life man
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
<--- Mexican
Sindre Sturle says:
im not cheeting
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Have you ever cheated?
Sindre Sturle says:
nope
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Then why did you tell me you did?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Why were accounts you registered at same table
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
And why would I lie svindle?
Sindre Sturle says:
im the star..many players uses my accounts
Sindre Sturle says:
i got plenty
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Well maybe you should not fucking let them play at the same table
Sindre Sturle says:
cos you are a fat brooke mexican
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You use pokertracker? Post your results facing me.
Sindre Sturle says:
i dont care
Sindre Sturle says:
i got no money in accounts
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You don't care that your being exposed? thats good
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Thanks for admitting it.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
At least you will be black listed in the community
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Fucking cheater.
Sindre Sturle says:
lololololol
Sindre Sturle says:
at the grindersclub
Sindre Sturle says:
hahahahahahahahahhahahahaa
Sindre Sturle says:
hahahahaa
Sindre Sturle says:
im the star..you the black loser
Sindre Sturle says:
remember that
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
LOL
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You aren't helping yourself man
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Who couldn't cheat and be a star?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Give me all your account names
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
So we can clear this up
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
If you didn't cheat I will apologize
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
And never post a word about you again
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Your a racist prick too
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Now no one is going to believe you
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Post every name you have
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
And we will clear this up.
Sindre Sturle says:
why do i need to be belived?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Then shut the fuck up about it
Sindre Sturle says:
i can pose the msn were you asked me to be a part of the team
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Good. Do it.
Sindre Sturle says:
noone would suspect u
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
That would be you admitting to cheating
Sindre Sturle says:
i answered you there are no team
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
And me obviously trying to learn how the FUCK YOU CHEATERS DONT GET CAUGHT
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Just post your names
Sindre Sturle says:
i have never seen brennevins cards
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
And you never told me your cards?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Just post all your screenames and the dataminers can clear you if you don't cheat
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
And Ill apologize and not say another word.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
If you leave any names out, Ill post the list I have
Sindre Sturle says:
if you were a smart white guy i might do it..but you are a mexican loser
Sindre Sturle says:
i feel sorry for you
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I'm half mexican
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
So go ahead and post half
Sindre Sturle says:
eat less dinner
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
LoL fucking prick
Sindre Sturle says:
who does it fell to be a poor,black fat mexican?
Sindre Sturle says:
how
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
<3
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Only been poor for a few months, and I'm 18
Sindre Sturle says:
im in a luxus holliday with my family
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
how does it feel to be a cheating scum?
Sindre Sturle says:
im the star
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
The star of cheaters.
Sindre Sturle says:
why not play me heads up then
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You haven't even beaten me HU have you?
Sindre Sturle says:
noone will
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You know I'm broke, thats why you talk shit
Sindre Sturle says:
cos im so damn good
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Post your PT data on me vs you vs heads up on any of your accounts
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You suck at heads up man
Sindre Sturle says:
i feel bad if winning vs you
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
lololololol
Sindre Sturle says:
you need to feed your family
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
So you purposely lost to me all these years?
Sindre Sturle says:
i got 2 mill us in my account
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I'm 18, I don't have a family to support
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Congrats. I hope they take it all.
Sindre Sturle says:
my bank account
Sindre Sturle says:
dont have a penny at poker account
Sindre Sturle says:
there are nothing to be taken
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
So are we done? 1. You are a racist cheating prick. 2. You havent beat me heads up. 3. You don't care about any of the above because your money isnt in poker accounts
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Sound good?
Sindre Sturle says:
i dont care coz im not a ceather
Sindre Sturle says:
im just a poker star
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Bullshit. And everyone will see through it with this chat.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
And the fact you won't post your names
Sindre Sturle says:
watch my game and learn how to be a champ
Sindre Sturle says:
i will not coz you are a black gangster
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
step 1. get some cheating friends step 2. have a friend who owns one of the skisn step 3. cheat players out of money
Sindre Sturle says:
i would post if you were white
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
What the fuck does that have to do with anything
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
lolololololololo You are just making things worse for you
Sindre Sturle says:
worse?
Sindre Sturle says:
what can you do?
Sindre Sturle says:
kill me
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Nah, just expose you man.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You are a coward. You won't even admit it when you have been caught.
Sindre Sturle says:
svindle =cheeting in norwegian
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
so you do admit it?
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
And I knew that btw
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Just have some fucking honor and admit it
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Fucking coward.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You are rich.. but you are nothing among your peers.
Sindre Sturle says:
honnor with the vlack boy
Sindre Sturle says:
im good looking rich
Sindre Sturle says:
you would kill to have my life
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Doesn't change the fact you are a cheater.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I'd kill for certain things.. and thats not it. Die a coward. You could just admit it and be like "so what" instead you keep lieing to everybody
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I bet alot of people you cheated are going to be mad at you.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
Hope you run into some of them playing live.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
You cheat there too?

[thetank]

It's not up to the accused to provide proof of his innocence, rather his accuser to provide evidence for his guilt. Your name is Eskabor, not McCarthy.

Your word will not be enough.
In this world, you shouldn't be offended if people fail to take you at your word. After all, this is t'internet.

Moreover, if all this is true, the moral high gorund is something you can't really lay claim to. Having known that these players were cheating long before now.

By your own admission, you did not tell them to stop, you told them to be careful. I think we can all see the fundamental difference there. More damning, you didn't absolve yourself of it there and then, effectively turning a blind eye so that you could continue in your almost direct benefit from this, some (a great many in fact) may say that you were therefore cheating too. Very circular logic, but would you accept the word of a cheat?



So it's clear you're not now acting in the best interest of the players or for the general wellbeing of poker etc etc. For sure, if these people have been cheating, and if through these allegations action is taken, then a positive thing has been done. You are outing these people because of a need to pursue your own agenda, this is most probably not a conscience thing. We should all be clear on that.

One can only speculate as to what your agenda may be, if I'm going down, I'm taking everybody with me, is one angle, it seems abundantly and shamelessly clear that obtaining a stake is another.

Good luck with that, you may very well need it.

I know of no-one in their right mind, who would enter into a buisness arrangement (that of staking/backing another player) with someone who has gone about all this the way you have.
Things have gone wrong for you, you have thrown allegations at former associates. Surely you can't expect a queue of people willing to deal with you, in case things go wrong for you again. Maybe it will be their private conversations pasted all over the net in a few months.

No thankyou.

[thetank]

Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
But losing the trust of my rakeback clients even if they are cheaters would of destroyed my business
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I told svindle to be careful.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
He kept cheating, so its on him.

[Eskabor]

I did turn a blind eye because I was told to and it would of risked destroying my business. While turning a public blind eye I warned every player I saw play with them that I knew via msn. I have an e-mail of me asking for advice on how I should handle it as an affiliate and I was told dropping it is best. Should I of let the cheaters ruined my business by exposing them when people like you would of still thought I have other agendas and the sites are obviously not doing their jobs?

Me trying to get a stake out of this... are you serious? It seems like you took alot of time to come up with what you believe to be true.. but it doesn't seem too logical.

Also... if I'm going down for what? Being broke now because of the bos situation? I'm not stupid man... I know cheaters wouldn't have tons of money in their accounts(like he even said) and would have it tucked away.. so how is he "going down"? He will still have money but the community will be warned. If this is my agenda why did I not drag the first person's chat I posted name through the mud? Why would I care about truth if this was my rather childish agenda?

If svindle isn't a cheater it would be simple for him to post all his screenames here for everyone to see. I doubt he is going to do that, do you know why... because he is a cheater. Also becareful can very well mean stop, I don't have those chat logs readily availble for me so I don't know the exact words I used. Be careful can mean watch your step before I expose you, could it not? Either way I was still told not to publically expose them. In hindsight I could have dropped them from my rakeback if I want to take the highest moral ground. But they could of in turn then shitlisted me with their contacts and ruined my business. I probably handled this part bad... but I don't see how it doesn't make any of this untrue.

"I know of no-one in their right mind, who would enter into a buisness arrangement (that of staking) with someone who has gone about all this the way you have.
Things have gone wrong for you, you have thrown allegations at former associates. Surely you can't expect a queue of people willing to deal with you, in case things go wrong for you again. Maybe it will be their private conversations pasted all over the net in a few months"

Well if they are cheats they should be worried about anything they say to me. This wasn't even along the lines of a staking deal... and once again i don't understand your logic. I shouldn't of came out because I am breaking the trust of a cheater but I also shouldn't of kept it quiet.

So answer me this.. as I'm going to assume you really did put time into this and thought it was logical. You put me into a catch 22 I look bad no matter how I handle it. What is your agenda?

Edit: Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
But losing the trust of my rakeback clients even if they are cheaters would of destroyed my business
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
I told svindle to be careful.
Eskabor- Need a backer contact if interested. says:
He kept cheating, so its on him

Thank you for this, this obviouslys proves I said be careful in the context of "stop" I stand by if I would of exposed him then it could of ruined my business and the trust of privacy between me and other clients. That much is evident by how YOU reacted to me betraying trust in a chat.

[Eskabor]

*Sighs* I didn't want to have to do this but I have the emails of me and an affiliate manager telling me I should drop it.

[thetank]

I did turn a blind eye because I was told to and it would of risked destroying my business.

With you so far, don't tell anyone, preserve the buisness.

I warned every player I saw play with them that I knew via msn.

That would appear contradictory to turning a blind eye.




So you didn't go after it, it was Chinatown, fair enough.

Me trying to get a stake out of this... are you serious? It seems like you took alot of time to come up with what you believe to be true.. but it doesn't seem too logical.

My evidence for this is purely circumstantial I'll admit. Your name next to "Need a backer contact if interested" around about 700 times on this thread.


If you can get this Chinatown thing, great. I'm not just trying to naysay here, I'm just warning that if you get a rep for pasting msn conversations on the internet, people may shy away from talking to you.