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« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2007, 06:00:10 PM » |
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Hang on, Tottenham might have palyed the better football and had more chances, but that is usually how home teams should be. You never deserve anything in this game. In terms of the cast iron decisions, defoes goal was ofside twice and chimbona should have been off 1.5 times - would have been a different game if those decisions had been made properly. Having said that I'll take this scenario everytime away from home.
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« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2007, 06:02:46 PM » |
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Dyer absolutely owned Tainio (who should be shot) and Huddlestone.
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« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2007, 06:09:58 PM » |
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Robinsons crap. That goal by Martins was fantastic.
I also loved the challenge on Lennon by Huntingdon. He simply had no other option.
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« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2007, 06:33:55 PM » |
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"Golf is deceptively simple and endlessly complicated. It satisfies the soul and frustrates the intellect. It is at the same time maddening and rewarding and it is without a doubt the greatest game that mankind has ever invented." - Arnold Palmer aka The King.
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« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2007, 06:44:10 PM » |
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« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2007, 06:59:42 PM » |
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At what point does Roeder get credit? I'm not saying he deserves it but it yet, but its not far away from coming together. I dont know for how many games he was in charge of West Ham but he's into his 50's for us now and has a decent record.
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« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2007, 07:03:18 PM » |
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At what point does Roeder get credit? I'm not saying he deserves it but it yet, but its not far away from coming together. I dont know for how many games he was in charge of West Ham but he's into his 50's for us now and has a decent record.
I tend to agree. The thing is you guys have decent players (when everyone is fit) I just dont think he's very tactically sound. He seems to know how to make the guys work for each other though. The effort cannot be denied. |
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« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2007, 07:12:45 PM » |
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What did your lot do against Roeder at home? |
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« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2007, 09:12:49 PM » |
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What did your lot do against Roeder at home? It's a long-standing running joke between Nemesis and me, he doesn't rate Roeder. Nor do I for that matter, but in this context it's not that important, you needed to be there at the time..... |
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« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2007, 09:20:39 PM » |
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Please dont back spurs you Jonah !!
Sorry Kev, my fault.  I bet £20 Defoe to score first £5 Defoe to score last £5 Defoe to score first and 3-1 win £5 Defoe to score last and 3-1 win £5 Defoe scores first winning me £27.50 so I can't lose  (thanks for tip Nem) I need newcastle to score and they do (somehow) Then Spurs score again. Ok now if Spurs get one more I could be on for £200+, but if Defoe scores again i am on for £450+. Everytime Spurs have the ball I am shouting get it to Defoe. Newcastle are doing bugger all until all of a sudden bang it in with a super goal. Still hoping for a last goal from Defoe but no luck. Still saw a great game, lovely free grub, free drink and a winning bet so a good day all round.  |
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« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2007, 09:52:41 PM » |
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There is no denying Roeder is a good guy - but i just wonder if he is too much a nice guy for his own good and whether a club like Newcastle is too big for him.
He is one of the reasons that i like seeing Necastle do well, for him to shove it up his crtics.
But in the back of all our minds, we all know he hasnt quite got the tectical nouse that a heavyweight manager should have and that probably like Bryan Robson, Peter Reid etc at some point he will get the sack whether he deserves to or not.
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« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2007, 10:55:56 PM » |
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To me there is far too much BS about tactical knowledge. People just assume that a winning manager must be tactically great and a losing one is inept. I love to know how an outsider can judge this, or do we just go on what some pundits might say? Which managers in the PL are tactically great and which aren't? Can anyone highlight any such examples of where they have seen these differences?
Roeder has Newcastle playing some of the most fluid football since Keegan, and a season with Robson. The defence (just beofre the latest injuries) is looking more solid.
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« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2007, 06:05:15 PM » |
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To me there is far too much BS about tactical knowledge. People just assume that a winning manager must be tactically great and a losing one is inept. I love to know how an outsider can judge this, or do we just go on what some pundits might say? Which managers in the PL are tactically great and which aren't? Can anyone highlight any such examples of where they have seen these differences?
Roeder has Newcastle playing some of the most fluid football since Keegan, and a season with Robson. The defence (just beofre the latest injuries) is looking more solid.
Fluid football doesn't mean tactically sound though. Keegan was an awful tactician and he had teams playing beautiful looking football. |
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« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2007, 06:19:14 PM » |
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To me there is far too much BS about tactical knowledge. People just assume that a winning manager must be tactically great and a losing one is inept. I love to know how an outsider can judge this, or do we just go on what some pundits might say? Which managers in the PL are tactically great and which aren't? Can anyone highlight any such examples of where they have seen these differences?
Roeder has Newcastle playing some of the most fluid football since Keegan, and a season with Robson. The defence (just beofre the latest injuries) is looking more solid.
Fluid football doesn't mean tactically sound though. Keegan was an awful tactician and he had teams playing beautiful looking football. The fluid football comment is completely separate to the paragraph above it, apart from backing his possible qualities. |
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« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2007, 06:25:05 PM » |
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To me there is far too much BS about tactical knowledge. People just assume that a winning manager must be tactically great and a losing one is inept. I love to know how an outsider can judge this, or do we just go on what some pundits might say? Which managers in the PL are tactically great and which aren't? Can anyone highlight any such examples of where they have seen these differences?
Roeder has Newcastle playing some of the most fluid football since Keegan, and a season with Robson. The defence (just beofre the latest injuries) is looking more solid.
Fluid football doesn't mean tactically sound though. Keegan was an awful tactician and he had teams playing beautiful looking football. The fluid football comment is completely separate to the paragraph above it, apart from backing his possible qualities. Ah ok. I agree with the bottom line totally then. I was not one for sacking Roeder a few months back and I'm certainly not now. |
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