an interesting discussion point came out of the excellent live coverage last night , when the shadows and the hit squad where railing praz and karl. the camel came on in his usual way being critical of the fact that 2 groups had emerged on the poker scene , ours is , in fact, borne out of a tongue in cheek comment made in barca and it has stuck. the shadows primarily are made up of zipppy, ash, matt t, and me with jules drifting in and out (usually when he has 10%) .
now the hit squad is praz karl chatti x2 james hark and satellite jim........................
camels comment was base on the old fashion stick in the mud type,,,,,,,,,,," god i hope these "crews" doesnt mean all thewhooping and hollering is coming into the uk pokerscene........................
tikay then followed this up by saying there was some in bolton , he was correct , the shouting was from the scousers, predominantly, backed up with their vocal mates . he then went on to say you wouldnt see it from the likes of gosney, thew, rokash , hussain, wernick . oh and praz. (intereStingly he INCLUDED the 2 most succesful from the 2 groups above). NOW I DONT SEE the difference between a rub down fron gosney or a typical lucy broadside to some excited guy get over exhuberant , but that is a matter of opinion. are they both right or wrong.
NOW THE point of the post is to debate whether there is room in the poker scene for this type of behaviour, whilst i think its a little daft during the early and middle stages of th tournement , because you need to focus your concentration , and screaming only breaks your psychological advantage.
i n the latter stages of the tourneys there is issues with regard to the importance to the indiddvidual, some guy might be skint and suck out in a 10 rebuy and he "gives it the big one" probably out of relief, so lets look at the bigger picture.
i was at the final stages of the ept in dublin when i was being railed by matt ,ash ,zippy ,andy brad ,micky fletch, i made a moove with 77 , i put in a big reraise straight into kk , luckily he was german so the following scenes didnt matter that much, i hit the flush and the releif was huge , i couldnt beleive my luck and went over to the lads who , to a man , were giving it the big one on the rail (EVEN ASH , TK) HIGH FIVES WERE EXCHANGED OUT OF PURE RELEIF.
NOW THE SECOND TIME IT HAPPENED THERE WA NO HOLLERING AND THE RELEIF WAS HUGE. i was in the sb lodden was in the bb i raise with 66 jonny called 12k with 33 the board came 399 i raised 25k jonny reraise 50 k i pushed for 150 allin jonny called turn ace river 9 .
if i remember rightly there was no hollering i thought i was on my way , i sucked out, i remeber dropping my bag and going to sit in the seats as joony walked of the other way , i was somewat bewildered by the whole scene. i got up walked over to jonni pleased for myself but gutted for him (cos it keeps happening to him 3 tables out in the ept) he is a cracking lad.
at the final there was no hollering etc and quite rightly so. but i havent got a problem with it at the right time, when it is stoked by a situation.
the second discussion point on this , is, if poker is to maintain its longterm status at the forefront of the sports/game world with a multi million pound turnover does the enviroment need to be more fan orientated , should there be final tables with fans cheering there favourite , look at the hachem clan whenhe won the world series , what was said about them , they gave hachem motivation and made it look like a homers table . home advantage and support helpos all sports .
so if i or any of the shadows get to a major final shortly thn we will be there in force supporting our friend , feeding some confidence and positivity . if that means getting a bit to excited at the wrong time then so be it.................
the GAME IS CHANGING FOLKS , SOME, MAY THINK, FOR THE WORSE ,BUT EVERYTHING HAS TO EVOLVE ,
PS. i wish somebody would tell the scousers to be quiet, yes gary i mean you mate .
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