whooppinggggg and hollering , good or bad fpr poker

[quantify]

thankyou that explains it better , i think i would personally sit on you for a full blind level if you succumbed to it, i must admit i was embarrased after i did it , but inexperience was my excuse , i had never been at that level before and exoitment got the better of me , will be a toe curler when they show it ..........i booked my hols for june;)

[tikay]

It's each to their own Nick, & we all see these things differently.

I am old school, something you apparently (by your repeated comments) don't much like in poker. But I am what I am, "manners maketh man" is what matters to me, & I've done pretty well in life - & even better in poker - using that maxim. All things considered (I had no education at all), it's served me quite well in life, & I'll never change that view.

Buit if others wanna whoop & holler & bang the table, & embarrass others by using speech play that highlights an individuals physical failings, that's their perfect right.  I'll respect that right, but that's not to say I have to like or applaud it.

But I'm quite curious about this passage of yours....


tikay then followed this up by saying there was some in bolton , he was correct , the shouting was  from the scousers, predominantly, backed up with their vocal mates . he then went on to say you wouldnt see it from the likes of gosney, thew, rokash , hussain, wernick .  oh and praz. (intereStingly he INCLUDED the 2 most succesful from the 2 groups above).  NOW I DONT SEE the difference between a rub down fron gosney or a typical lucy broadside to some excited guy get over exhuberant , but that is a matter of opinion.   

Why "interestingly".......? I don't have a problem if peeps wanna give themselves group names, never said I did, (in fact Thewy, Belly & I used to be The Notts Mob) & all the names I listed are players I respect & admire. So, why "interestingly", you've whooshed me there my friend.

As to whooping & hollering & table-banging, folks can carry on doing that if that's what floats their boat. To me, that's just lack of class, but others see it different, & they may well be right. In Association Football players celebrarte winning a penalty, in Rugby Union they get it quietly. Real men, see?

Each to their own, even if that does include "old-fashioned".

I'll stick to being polite & reserved, & watch, with a tad of pity, others who can't control their emotions doing their thing.

It's cool, either way.

We should make the next debate be on the merits (or otherwise) of speech play.

[tikay]

cmon tikay i feel a long post acomin

he would need to have won a big pot to know what it felt like...

I live in hope Laz!

[Eyeofsauron]

I think along the same lines as Red-Dog on this one. I wouldn't do it for three reasons:

1. None of my friends like poker so there would be no-one there to high-five to anyway.

2. I would look like a complete knob. I don't have much difficulty looking like one anyway, but I try not to make matters worse.

3. I would have to win a hand first.

[snoopy1239]

I think the question here is...

Is it a genuine expression of relief, or is it just an excuse for people to show off and garner attention?

[The Camel]

Not sure why I'm bothering to answer this, because you are either joking or beyond help as illustrated by this line:

luckily he was german so the following scenes didnt matter that much,

Do people today have no empathy?

When you hit your miracle flush did it cross your mind how sick the other fella must have felt at that moment?

And you jumping around like a baboon on speed would surely not help.

If you play poker, you have to learn that sometimes you get unlucky and sometimes you get lucky. Behaving like classless lout doesn't help you and can only make your opponent feel upset. So why bother?

[tikay]

I think the question here is...

Is it a genuine expression of relief, or is it just an excuse for people to show off and garner attention?

I see it wider than that.

In doing it for either reason, should you not take into account the other guy's feelings? Do as thy will be done & all that.....

Those that stick it up others rarely like it stuck up them.

[tikay]

Not sure why I'm bothering to answer this, because you are either joking or beyond help as illustrated by this line:

luckily he was german so the following scenes didnt matter that much,

Do people today have no empathy?

When you hit your miracle flush did it cross your mind how sick the other fella must have felt at that moment?

And you jumping around like a baboon on speed would surely not help.

If you play poker, you have to learn that sometimes you get unlucky and sometimes you get lucky. Behaving like classless lout doesn't help you and can only make your opponent feel upset. So why bother?

He was German, so that's OK, see?......

[snoopy1239]

I think the question here is...

Is it a genuine expression of relief, or is it just an excuse for people to show off and garner attention?

I see it wider than that.

In doing it for either reason, should you not take into account the other guy's feelings? Do as thy will be done & all that.....

Those that stick it up others rarely like it stuck up them.

I can forgive someone who clenches his fist and shouts 'yes' uncontrollably because of genuine adrenalin, but when it's high fives, and a blatant form of posing, showing off and unnecessarily drawing attention to oneself, then I'm not a fan.

[tikay]

I think the question here is...

Is it a genuine expression of relief, or is it just an excuse for people to show off and garner attention?

I see it wider than that.

In doing it for either reason, should you not take into account the other guy's feelings? Do as thy will be done & all that.....

Those that stick it up others rarely like it stuck up them.

I can forgive someone who clenches his fist and shouts 'yes' uncontrollably because of genuine adrenalin, but when it's high fives, and a blatant form of posing, showing off and unnecessarily drawing attention to oneself, then I'm not a fan.

Few are - when on the receiving end.

[The Camel]

I think the question here is...

Is it a genuine expression of relief, or is it just an excuse for people to show off and garner attention?

I see it wider than that.

In doing it for either reason, should you not take into account the other guy's feelings? Do as thy will be done & all that.....

Those that stick it up others rarely like it stuck up them.

I can forgive someone who clenches his fist and shouts 'yes' uncontrollably because of genuine Adrenalin, but when it's high fives, and a blatant form of posing, showing off and unnecessarily drawing attention to oneself, then I'm not a fan.

Of course you are right Snoops. An expression if relief is quite understandable to relieve tension. But premeditated celebrations are bang out of order I think...

For example: the behaviour of Rolf Slotboom in the latter stages of the Masterclassics at Amsterdam has led me to lose all respect for him.

I must admit to chuckling inside when he lost in such an unlucky way in the final. I'd like to think it was bad karma catching up with him...

[quantify]

i think there are a cuople of points we nee to clear up tk.

1 . i dont see you as old fashioned (other than you tesco tshirt at bppool)  i hold the deepest respect for anyone who can last more thsn a few years in this game (without going mad or bust)l,  please dont mix my comments with any individual,  particulaly you, whom i hold in high regard .
as for your barbed comment about physical attributes , i still hold firm you misread the trembling hands situation .

2 anyway the paragraph you pickd out was again misconstrued , or badly written by me.,   i meant to say you mentioned the 2 most succesful of the 2 groups who yu said" were classy", whilst camel was saying "oh god does this mean the 2 groups are "whoopin and hollering"    you answered his question without realising it

im a bit dissapointed this isnt being deeply discussed and we are just taking the base values , i think the whole topic has real depth , thats why i posted a long post , but hey

[RED-DOG]

We should make the next debate be on the merits (or otherwise) of speech play.

I have absolutely no problem at all with speech play, it's part of poker. As long as players don't declare their intended action out of turn, insult or intimidate other players, and are gracious enough to allow their opponent at least a few moments quiet thinking time when faced with a tough decision, I think it's fine.

[snoopy1239]

i think the whole topic has real depth , thats why i posted a long post , but hey

I do agree with this, especially because I was a season ticket down the villa for several years and used to take great pleasure in taunting the opposing fans, even though I knew they were gutted when they went a goal down or lost a match.

I think it's a fascinating topic.

[The Camel]

Poker is not a team sport.

The football legends poker tournament was a disgrace. Encouraging team play and colluding.

The idea of "crews" and "teams" playing poker where individuals have a major financial interest in each other is disturbing on a number of levels.

Basically, an interest in another player should not lead to someone playing against him differently to when he has no interest.

Soft playing, chip passing and colluding is cheating and the existance of poker teams only leads to suspicion that these players are indulging in such shenanighans.