whooppinggggg and hollering , good or bad fpr poker

[I KNOW IT]

WOW! Just WOW!

Just when I thought the level of idiocy and Hypocrisy had reached it's peak, it grows even further.

This whole thread is just WOW!

From someone who seems OBV drunk extolling the righteousness of shouting and high fiveing after a suckout to those placing certain "old school" players on pedestals when at the base of those pedestals is a foundation of pure filth.


LOL at all of you aside from Reddog and Tank.

Do the rest of you not even have noses to smell the chest high stink you are swimming in?

I know probably as much as you on " the pedestal of filth" which poker has been based on for a very long time. Check my comments on THM forum about J Chans win. I am certainly under no illusion about some "old time players".

Please elaborate further on your comments
 

Additionaly, hearing arguments for daft celebrations from those who normally criticize yanks for the same is ironic at the least.

I thought they said Yanks didnt understand irony 

[MadYank]

So do you have an opinion regarding the subject of the thread Mr Yank, or do you only have opinions about other peoples opinions?

I think my opinion on this has been well known for years now. I make a lot of noise talking, singing, and joking at the table but you would be hardpressed to come up with more than a handfull of suckout celbrations or massive needlings of those I didn't have a significant history with.

As for the 750..I saw the final table from 6 players out and Lucy just crushed them on her way to victory. She annihilated KK with AJ. Then did the same several hands later to KK, this time with the ever potent 88. Once 4 handed there were 2 short stacked guys, an average stacked woman and Lucy with 50% of the chips after her rampages. The other woman knocked out one of the guys and then ran herself into Lucy's wall of destruction and knocked herself out. This left Lucy with about 90% of the chips and one short stacked guy left.

Now for an editorial break....Class in competitions..ALMOST .EVERYONE could use a few lessons.....especially some of the newer players. Now this guy finished second (obviously) but from when I started watchin (6 out) he was always the low stack and just got bumped up to 2nd by standing by as Lucy tore thru the field. Ok maybe there is some skill to that tactic or recognition, but lets have some class buddy!!! Everytime another player got knocked out he was dancing around (with his mates sweating the event) with a great 'look at me' grin on his face. Now obviously this was a VERY big score

for him (I think 2nd paid over 20K) but it was unnecessary for both him , AND the 2nd last girl out to do 'dances of glory' when other players were knocked out and knocked out by long distance draws as well. To her continuing credit, Lucy remained emotionless, almost surgical, in her demeanor as she cruised to victory, softening the blows of the outdraws with graciousness. But back to this guy, I don't think his intentions were to 'rub people down' but Jesus man, it doesn't take a clinical physcologist to realize that you dancing a jig and high fiving your mates is not the most sensitive of things to be doing as someone (who was trying to WIN) exits whilst you sit there and muck, muck, muck, long ago surrendering any chance at victory. OK Thus ends the sermon.

This be a segment from a trip report/article I wrote in 2003 about a vic festival...full article here...http://www.gutshot.com/e/article.php?full=72&limitb=0&limitt=61&show=s&ckbox=a&search=madyank

Please bear in mind that this has, so far, been a civil and good humoured debate.

O RLY? And what might thee be alluding to?

 I understand this is "blondeland" and thus blondish rules/mood applies. That said, when someone says something absolutely ridiculous/indefensible perhaps a smack dose of reality is just the medicine.

I'm not sure if we've met or not, but from what snoops/Jen say about you, I'd like you and respect you and nothing I've ever seen you write on this board has made me think otherwise. That said, they along with TK along with a bunch of others who I have met from blonde will tell you that with me "what you get is what you see." I don't piss about. If I like you, you feel well liked and can't mistake it. On the other hand, if I think someone is an idiot or "acting the idiot" then they also know about it sharpishly. There is almost nothing that I write on a forum that I wouldn't say in person face to face. (Well perhaps I'd shy away from the TK "old as Moses" jokes)

I realize that recently I have come across as incredibly blunt (perhaps bordering on rude). If that has offended any unintentionlly, than I apologize. OK perhaps I'll soften the bluntess a bit, but I'll never spew sugar water for the sake of spewing. It just aint me.

Happy Martin Luther King Day (Oh wait! You guys don't have that holiday)

[snoopy1239]

I recall one cash game at Caesar’s Palace where Mad Yanks foes refused to believe that he was from the good ol’ U of K. In retaliation, he announced that next time he raised he’d sing ‘Rule Britannia’ to prove his patriotism. And, on the very next hand, would you Adam and Eve it… Aces!!

Naturally, he re-raised all-in and, as promised commenced singing of ‘Rule Britannia’. With his hands waving about in the air and his curly tache twitching to the vocal notes being produced beneath it, he must have appeared quite mad. Convinced of his madness, his opponent duly paid him off.

Feigning insanity, what a great way to earn money.

[MadYank]

I recall one cash game at Caesar’s Palace where Mad Yanks foes refused to believe that he was from the good ol’ U of K. In retaliation, he announced that next time he raised he’d sing ‘Rule Britannia’ to prove his patriotism. And, on the very next hand, would you Adam and Eve it… Aces!!

Naturally, he re-raised all-in and, as promised commenced singing of ‘Rule Britannia’. With his hands waving about in the air and his curly tache twitching to the vocal notes being produced beneath it, he must have appeared quite mad. Convinced of his madness, his opponent duly paid him off.

Feigning insanity, what a great way to earn money.

Ah Yes! This would be the same game in which you feigned shynesss and got other random drunk yank to payoff your full with a flushdraw. I think we should get back to that game quickish...Howz next weds for ya Snoops?

[I KNOW IT]

So do you have an opinion regarding the subject of the thread Mr Yank, or do you only have opinions about other peoples opinions?

I think my opinion on this has been well known for years now. I make a lot of noise talking, singing, and joking at the table but you would be hardpressed to come up with more than a handfull of suckout celbrations or massive needlings of those I didn't have a significant history with.

As for the 750..I saw the final table from 6 players out and Lucy just crushed them on her way to victory. She annihilated KK with AJ. Then did the same several hands later to KK, this time with the ever potent 88. Once 4 handed there were 2 short stacked guys, an average stacked woman and Lucy with 50% of the chips after her rampages. The other woman knocked out one of the guys and then ran herself into Lucy's wall of destruction and knocked herself out. This left Lucy with about 90% of the chips and one short stacked guy left.

Now for an editorial break....Class in competitions..ALMOST .EVERYONE could use a few lessons.....especially some of the newer players. Now this guy finished second (obviously) but from when I started watchin (6 out) he was always the low stack and just got bumped up to 2nd by standing by as Lucy tore thru the field. Ok maybe there is some skill to that tactic or recognition, but lets have some class buddy!!! Everytime another player got knocked out he was dancing around (with his mates sweating the event) with a great 'look at me' grin on his face. Now obviously this was a VERY big score

for him (I think 2nd paid over 20K) but it was unnecessary for both him , AND the 2nd last girl out to do 'dances of glory' when other players were knocked out and knocked out by long distance draws as well. To her continuing credit, Lucy remained emotionless, almost surgical, in her demeanor as she cruised to victory, softening the blows of the outdraws with graciousness. But back to this guy, I don't think his intentions were to 'rub people down' but Jesus man, it doesn't take a clinical physcologist to realize that you dancing a jig and high fiving your mates is not the most sensitive of things to be doing as someone (who was trying to WIN) exits whilst you sit there and muck, muck, muck, long ago surrendering any chance at victory. OK Thus ends the sermon.

This be a segment from a trip report/article I wrote in 2003 about a vic festival...full article here...http://www.gutshot.com/e/article.php?full=72&limitb=0&limitt=61&show=s&ckbox=a&search=madyank

Please bear in mind that this has, so far, been a civil and good humoured debate.

O RLY? And what might thee be alluding to?

 I understand this is "blondeland" and thus blondish rules/mood applies. That said, when someone says something absolutely ridiculous/indefensible perhaps a smack dose of reality is just the medicine.

I'm not sure if we've met or not, but from what snoops/Jen say about you, I'd like you and respect you and nothing I've ever seen you write on this board has made me think otherwise. That said, they along with TK along with a bunch of others who I have met from blonde will tell you that with me "what you get is what you see." I don't piss about. If I like you, you feel well liked and can't mistake it. On the other hand, if I think someone is an idiot or "acting the idiot" then they also know about it sharpishly. There is almost nothing that I write on a forum that I wouldn't say in person face to face. (Well perhaps I'd shy away from the TK "old as Moses" jokes)

I realize that recently I have come across as incredibly blunt (perhaps bordering on rude). If that has offended any unintentionlly, than I apologize. OK perhaps I'll soften the bluntess a bit, but I'll never spew sugar water for the sake of spewing. It just aint me.

Happy Martin Luther King Day (Oh wait! You guys don't have that holiday)

LMFAO , I just checked the HM poker data base to see who came second to Lucy in the 750 tourny at the Vic, It was Barny Boatman. Then I noticed she had won another 750 at the Vic and realised it was this one Ron was referring too as Pippa Flanders came 3rd. Made me laugh for a while though

[RED-DOG]

Yes, I did see your post as a tad blunt. Apparently you saw it too so I can't have been that far wide of the mark.  

I don't know who you are in the real world, so I'm not familier with your opinions on this subject. I'm off to click your link now, perhaps I'll come back enlightend.

PS- I will make do without the sugar water, if you promise not to give me a smack dose of anything else  

[MadYank]

LMFAO , I just checked the HM poker data base to see who came second to Lucy in the 750 tourny at the Vic, It was Barny Boatman. Then I noticed she had won another 750 at the Vic and realised it was this one Ron was referring too as Pippa Flanders came 3rd. Made me laugh for a while though

UGGH! Thanks for bringing up a painful memory!

The 750 that went Lucy 1st Barny 2nd had an interesting tale for me as well.

11 players left, Lucy chip leader and me 2nd chipleader and the other 9 stacks in a distant valley below.
All fold to me in the SB. (Lucy is in the BB) I pick up .  I push AI. She snap calls with AKo. ARRRRRRRRRGH!

FLOP 46J
COuld I improve on my 10 outer? of course not!

She goes to the FT massive chipleader and blew over the other 9. ARRRRRG! I win that pot and I blow thru the rest.
Twas an amusing tournament that only her or I could have won. She won, I finished 11th. She's a legend and now I'm a ranting Yank. Go figure? >:?

[RED-DOG]

Now I know who you are!

I shared a table with you once at the gutshot and sat back to back with you once at the Vic. (shudder)


Joking aside, you are loud and "in your face" but thats more evident as table talk/banter than rubdown or inappropriate celebration.

[snoopy1239]

Could this be he?... 

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[MadYank]

Could this be he?... 

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Wait! Am I the pretty one or the one with the funny facial hair?

[Swordpoker]

Just caught up with this thread. Great debate.

As a fencer, I am usual very vocal when I win a fight - especially when I've scored a fluke. It's an adrenaline release and a celebration of my good fortune. It is always followed up, however, by shaking hands with my opponent and generally showing respect.

There's a big difference between celebrating and rubbing your opponent's nose in it, in my opinion. Whooping and cheering in celebration is perfectly fine just as long as you don't cross the line into trying to make the other guy feel bad.

Of course, there are times when I have celebrated winning and my opponent has DECIDED to take offense from it. In that case, I believe that is entirely his problem and I have little sympathy.

[boldie]

Only just found the thread and I have to say all the whooping and high-fiving irritates me no end.

If I lose a pot I am quiet. If I win a pot I am just as quiet. I have no time for people who celebrate either sucking out or winning a pot if they go around shouting and all that.
Someone who's genuinely relieved at staying in a tourney or having his aces hold up could let that be known of course but as soon as the shouting and whooping/banging on the table starts I lose all respect for those players.

It's the same with insulting people and the rooting overzealously in the chatbox online. I don't mind supporting players online but never with an Ayyaaaar or ship it (or even worse..insulting another player to show "support" for the one you like). It will always be with a "nice hand, or well played" (in some cases...come on you monkey!)

I think it is essentially disrespectful to the other player to do it. If you remember that everytime you win a pot someone else loses one, especially in a cash game. If you suck out in a cash game and then start whooping you really should learn some manners. You just got very lucky and essentially mugged someone of his cash..show some respect when that happens, it'll go a long way.

In all tourneys I play whether they'd be online or live I always remember the players that are loud and (in my opinion) obnoxious. I remember the plays they make and what they do when they hold a big hand or they bluff. Whooping and holloring only draws more attention to you and poker is a game where you essentially want to win without everyone going "Look out for him! he does this and he does that when he holds this".
You want to sneak into the money and win the thing quietly.

People also tend to respect you more when you are a good winner and a good loser. I don't particularly want/need people to like me when I am playing poker, but I think respect from a good player is just about the biggest gift he can give you. (after his money obviously)

Just my two pence.

[NEVES]

 

[I, Zimbra]

Can we not draw a distinction between:

the behaviour of the railbirds supporting 'their man'

and

the behaviour of the player in the tournament

in this debate?

(Perhaps this is a devil's advocate ploy, I am thinking of Tank's comment re: hypocrisy from a few pages back)

[Swordpoker]

Can we not draw a distinction between:

the behaviour of the railbirds supporting 'their man'

and

the behaviour of the player in the tournament

in this debate?

(Perhaps this is a devil's advocate ploy, I am thinking of Tank's comment re: hypocrisy from a few pages back)

Fair point.

My opinion is kinda the same for both though. It's down to the intention.

Whooping and cheering to celebrate your mates good fortune is fine. Doing it with the intention of upsetting an opponent is uncalled for.