I'll deliberately tune in to watch....Jade?

[TightPaulFolds]

Big brother normally makes fascinating viewing...the other night I saw the infrared cam catching someone actually turning in their sleep.
Am glad Jade has been shown up for the thug she is. Caught the whole thing on Youtube and agree that Shilpa held it together well. The whole incident is of overwhelming importance and deserves maximum publicity, *cough* especially if a member of your political team has just been arrested on suspicion of perversion of the course of justice and you want attention elsewhere. *cough*

[thetank]

Not that i agree with it but why shouldnt you call someone a paki bastard!

Coz it's not nice.



Where's my prize? 

[KingPoker]

yes thats why i retrated it- because the main point i was trying to say was worded wrong.  I just feel that you can put what you want in front of the word. It doesnt make it better or worse. Theres no difference in you being allowed to call some1 a paki bastard to a fat bastard. It doesn make it better or worse that its racist. Its the fact that you are discriminating against them for a reason which i bet you, wasnt the reason for the start of the provocation!

[tantrum]

who would have thought that jade's thread will provoke racism vs fatism debate?

[thetank]

I didn't get that far in the reading of it. Soz

[KingPoker]

and do yu know what, i just watched her on the news and she seems unbothered by it!

next- the publicity stunt.

any guesses what it will be?

[thetank]

Gotta be a goodwill mission to India.

[FlyingPig]

Any form of discrimation in which people are made to suffer is dam right wrong, whether it be fat/skinny/black it is wrong and should not be tolerated.

The problem is caiused by the mixture of the descriptives'. If we call someone a 'bastard', that is not going to hurt too much. If we call someone a paki/fat/skinny/black by itself that is bad. It's when the 2 terms come together that offence is taken. You call someone fat, whois fat. they cannot refute the argument, they may get upset. You call them a fat bastard then that is absolutely out of order.

If you call someone a Paki, and they take offence to it, then it is considered racial abuse. And IMO rightly so. Although I would argue that you would not then be able to call a scotsman 'Jock', Australian 'Ozzy'. These are not derogatory and are not considered derogatory by the nations.

But Paki is considered racial abuse because it was used as a derogatory statement throughout the 80's and 90's, and for me its all about respecting the wishes of the poeple who the term is aimed at.

[danafish]

Jesus Christ, i just nip out for dinner with my brother and when I come back the thread's gone mad! With people calling each other fat racists! AND TYPING IN CAPITAL LETTERS! That's it, I'm never going out again.

I still think Shilpa's a bitch, by the way. Can I say that? No dog lovers I'm offending or anything? 

[thetank]

OI, NO WOMEN ALLOWED 

[sledge13]

So one rule for Muslims/Arabs/Pakistanis and another for everyone else, yes im afraid so......now you cant even have bad guys as muslims without uproar...pathetic......


A group of Muslim activists who challenged 24 bosses over the show's portrayal of Islamic terrorists two seasons ago are attacking the program again. Officials at the Council on American-Islamic Relations met with producers back in 2005 when the 24 plot revolved around Muslim fundamentalists, and now they're upset again because the new season seems to portray members of their religion in the same shady light. Council spokesman Rabiah Ahmed says, "The overwhelming impression you get is fear and hatred for Muslims. After watching the premiere, I was afraid to go to the grocery store because I wasn't sure the person next to me would be able to differentiate between fiction and reality." The activists urged the show's bosses to meet with them again, but this time only succeeded in bringing them around a table for a conference call. Following original meetings in 2005, 24 star Kiefer Sutherland appeared in a TV commercial urging viewers not to assume all Muslims were like the terrorists portrayed in his series.

Really now I am lost for words, Jack Bauer to be burnt in India or Bradford next (oops is that racist?)

[tantrum]

So one rule for Muslims/Arabs/Pakistanis and another for everyone else, yes im afraid so......now you cant even have bad guys as muslims without uproar...pathetic......

Muslim - Islam is religion sir.

what are you implying in your stupid post?

[I, Zimbra]

Whenever someone starts a thread on race, there is always the danger of it getting out of hand, c.f. the "Seinfeld Actor Racist Outburst" thread from a few months back.

[thetank]

Given the present political atmosphere, and the propensity of hate crimes in the US at the mo, I don't think the Muslims who peacefully voiced their objection at 24 were entirely without legitimate grievances.

[tantrum]

Whenever someone starts a thread on race, there is always the danger of it getting out of hand, c.f. the "Seinfeld Actor Racist Outburst" thread from a few months back.

Actually this thread so far is doing quite well.  But from time to time someone will burp some total rubbish which is promptly corrected by the majority.