Is this absolute lunacy?

[pswnio]

Hand #39595126-3 at Sun6amB-005 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 11/Feb/07 06:03:36
 
     toads883 is at seat 0 with 1795.
     Potgreedy is at seat 1 with 1490.
     BooDog is at seat 2 with 1490.
     sirhvac is at seat 3 with 1490.
     camo100 is at seat 4 with 1465.
     dtu is at seat 5 with 1490.
     bbygurl281127 is at seat 6 with 1395.
     2pac68 is at seat 7 with 1405.
     Pswnio is at seat 8 with 1490.
     brynley is at seat 9 with 1490.
     The button is at seat 4.
     
     dtu posts the small blind of 5.
     bbygurl281127 posts the big blind of 10.

     toads883:  -- --
     Potgreedy:  -- --
     BooDog:  -- --
     sirhvac:  -- --
     camo100:  -- --
     dtu:  -- --
     bbygurl281127:  -- --
     2pac68:  -- --
     Pswnio: 
     brynley:  -- --

Pre-flop:
 
          2pac68 folds.   Pswnio calls.   brynley calls. 
          toads883 calls.   Potgreedy calls.   BooDog folds. 
          sirhvac folds.   camo100 folds.   dtu calls. 
          bbygurl281127 checks.   

Flop (board: ):
 
          dtu checks.   bbygurl281127 checks.   Pswnio checks. 
          brynley checks.   toads883 checks.   Potgreedy bets 60.
            dtu folds.   bbygurl281127 folds.   Pswnio raises to
          180.   brynley folds.   toads883 folds.   Potgreedy
          calls.   

Turn (board: ):
 
          Pswnio bets 300.   Potgreedy calls. 

Hand #39595126-3 at Sun6amB-005 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 11/Feb/07 06:03:36
 
     toads883 is at seat 0 with 1795.
     Potgreedy is at seat 1 with 1490.
     BooDog is at seat 2 with 1490.
     sirhvac is at seat 3 with 1490.
     camo100 is at seat 4 with 1465.
     dtu is at seat 5 with 1490.
     bbygurl281127 is at seat 6 with 1395.
     2pac68 is at seat 7 with 1405.
     Pswnio is at seat 8 with 1490.
     brynley is at seat 9 with 1490.
     The button is at seat 4.
     
     dtu posts the small blind of 5.
     bbygurl281127 posts the big blind of 10.

     toads883:  -- --
     Potgreedy:  -- --
     BooDog:  -- --
     sirhvac:  -- --
     camo100:  -- --
     dtu:  -- --
     bbygurl281127:  -- --
     2pac68:  -- --
     Pswnio: 
     brynley:  -- --

Pre-flop:
 
          2pac68 folds.   Pswnio calls.   brynley calls. 
          toads883 calls.   Potgreedy calls.   BooDog folds. 
          sirhvac folds.   camo100 folds.   dtu calls. 
          bbygurl281127 checks.   

Flop (board: ):
 
          dtu checks.   bbygurl281127 checks.   Pswnio checks. 
          brynley checks.   toads883 checks.   Potgreedy bets 60.
            dtu folds.   bbygurl281127 folds.   Pswnio raises to
          180.   brynley folds.   toads883 folds.   Potgreedy
          calls.   

Turn (board: ):
 
          Pswnio bets 300.   Potgreedy calls. 

River (board: ):

What hand do you put him on? I have him on a queen, meself, or possibly ace low kicker. I think he raises me on the turn with a better hand.

Should I have given up here or, if you're going to run a needless bluff like me (I just wanted to have fun ), should I fire another bullet? I have no information on this guy at all and it's the second hand of a small multi.

[pswnio]

Or he could be on JT, I suppose. I really am never going to be any good at this game.

[Jim-D]

Or he could be on JT, I suppose. I really am never going to be any good at this game.

You keep limping with K9 in early position then to be honest I dont hold much hope

[pswnio]

I know, I know. Really bad, it was kind of an instant non thinking click by mistake. Honestly.

[boldie]

give it up on the river so check fold for me...he will call any bet you make unless he is on a draw. If you reraisewith bottom pair you have to raise more on the flop.

BTW... the blinds are way too low to even bother playing K9.

[SupaMonkey]

Pot it unless he can't fold A-6 on that board, although i would have folded on the flop (and preflop but you said you got there by mistake).

[pswnio]

Pot it unless he can't fold A-6 on that board, although i would have folded on the flop (and preflop but you said you got there by mistake).

The more I look at this hand, the more I'm convinced he can't call this unless he's hit two pair, trips or has ace with high kicker.

1. Rule out ace high kicker - surely a raise pre flop and/or a further raise on flop or turn?
2. Two pair a possibility but AQ not likely given pre flop limp. A9 more likely. If he's stupid like me, he might have called with Q9
3. Trips a possibility but surely he's not going to slow play AA and QQ pre flop like that with three limpers already in.
4. He may have ace low kicker, or he may have something like KQ and is hoping to see the river for free.

So. I have him on a possible two pair or trip , ace with a low kicker, queen, or a draw. I think the latter three are far more likely than the first two.

I think pushing may be acceptable here (given that I only have slightly more than the pot).

Is there any flaw with my reasoning above? If there's anything glaring please do tell me, if I can get my post-hand rationalisation sorted then I might be able to do it at speed soon!

[tantrum]

So you have him on wide range of hands and you really honestly think he might fold here?

You limped, so no way he will give you credit for any good hand.  Do you honestly think he will fold to your push?
If yes you push, if not you fold.

[pswnio]

I think it's more likely from his point of view that I limped in with a decent hand than it is that he limped in with a decent hand from my point of view, if you see what I mean. First to enter the pot, could have been hoping for a raise behind me etc.

In his shoes, I'm probably only calling a push with two pair, trips, or ace with at least a ten, and probably not even then. And I think these are unlikely holdings.

From his point of view I'm either running a bluff or I've got a big hand. I'm not sure I'd call for all my chips to find out if I had a marginal hand.

[SupaMonkey]

I think the point where you decided to push him off of the pot came on the flop. You have built the pot so now is the time to take it down. If he can't be pushed off of the hand then you should have folded on the flop. Of course he may have improved during the hand but he hasn't really shown a great deal of strength throughout.