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« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2005, 07:30:00 PM »

Most decisions are judged on their own merit. Snoopy says that before the pot was awarded people had already noticed that the full house had won and told the dealer. If the dealer chose to ignore the players advice and did not double check the winning hands, then IMO Dani made the right judgement. And I would be referring the dealer back to the pit for the next training school.
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« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2005, 07:41:06 PM »

Anyone know what's happening in the £300


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« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2005, 08:38:37 PM »

Most decisions are judged on their own merit. Snoopy says that before the pot was awarded people had already noticed that the full house had won and told the dealer. If the dealer chose to ignore the players advice and did not double check the winning hands, then IMO Dani made the right judgement. And I would be referring the dealer back to the pit for the next training school.

I've never ever ever seen a dealer look so bored.

He was clearly in a world of his own.
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« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2005, 08:42:17 PM »

 Shocked were you dealing sopony ? Wink
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« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2005, 08:44:40 PM »

Probably the scenario where the dealer doesn't want to be in the card room then. Some dealers deliberately mess up because they don't like the card room. GET THEM OUT!!! put the people in, that are interested in the game. This saves US time and energy!!!
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« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2005, 08:52:55 PM »

Shocked were you dealing sopony ? Wink

:-O Kev.

Certainly not. I'm always on the ball.  Roll Eyes


Unfortunatley, I'm a shocking dealer as I seem to have shaky hand syndrome. I'm also a clumsy bugger who can't shuffle.
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« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2005, 11:10:17 PM »

Karabiner cut the S*** How did you get on
I Think you got 5th


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« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2005, 11:14:03 PM »

Karabiner cut the S*** How did you get on
I Think you got 5th


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Who are u asking?

And what do you mean about Karabiner? Has he cashed?
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« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2005, 11:16:17 PM »

on the phone to him now LIVE

4th

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« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2005, 11:18:19 PM »

Well played Ralph, mind you, it was an easy field  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2005, 11:19:23 PM »

cool

that's gr8 news.

A man on form.

Nice job, Karabiner.

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« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2005, 11:23:04 PM »


Just got back finished 4th for a nice £2700 payday.

3 left, Lucy has about 450k, Lawrence 250k and Phil Peters 75kish.

In the controversial coup, the ruling was that the cards "spoke" after they had been mucked and the pot awarded to the wrong "winner"

As you can imagine there was plenty of bad feeling, which was unavoidable given the situation.


Oddly enough, my exit or rather, crippling hand had an odd similarity to it.

Just after 9pm we took a short break and were then informed that the final table (four of us) were being moved
so that they could start the 9.15 £25 tourney. We were moved from the back of the card-room with no spectators
to the gallery, by the rail and the stairs.

Blinds are 4k/8k and I make it 23k to playwith KhTh. Lucy and Phil fold, Lawrence calls.

Flop is K J T.

Lawrence moves allin for about 100k, I call pretty quick, and it comes brick, brick.

Lawrence turns his cards over and taps the table.

A voice calls out from the stairwell "Lawrence you have a flush".

He turns his cards back face up and sure enough his Js7c had made a runner-runner fflush which neither of us or the dealer had seen.

Next hand I was the BB and Lawrence raised with KT (a little spooky) and I call for my remaining 23k with J8.

He rivered a straight after I had flopped a J.


But the previous hand left me with a bit of a sour taste after thinking that I had won.
Obviously I wouldn't want to win a pot that was not mine, but I'm sure you guys understand how I felt.

All in all not a bad weekend though, and the drive home was both fast and theraputic.

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« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2005, 11:37:49 PM »

Ralph

Wow £2700 a good result £4.2k Gross  against quality players, if SAGA ever got into Poker
I think you'll be on to a winner with sponsorship. You and Tikay.

I hear your older than Tikay Grin and about the hand with Lawrence well regardless of how it was done
he was in front, so don't let it bother you  too much

WELL PLAYED  thumbs up

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« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2005, 01:50:43 AM »

Well played Karabiner, didnt realise one of the spectators had shouted flush, if thats true, which im not disputing by the way, is disgraceful and let me say you handled it with total class. Even shaking Lawrences hand after you were knocked out the next hand.

The dispute earlier was handled well by Dani and I believe the correct decision was made.
The hands were KJ, vs 99. The board read K,3 ,9, 3, 3.
The pot was originally given to the KJ. Ithink lawrence commented that actually the 99 win, but somehow the cards were still mucked by the dealer.  Every one on the table saw the hands so there really was no doubt who had won. This is where it gets tricky and the tough decision had to be made,but in reality everyone saw the hand and was in no doubt so I think Dani made a good and fair decision.
Why should a player be penalised for a dealer error, just cause the cards were mucked, when everyone was a witness. There must be this type of concession to compensate for dealer error, so that the player is protected at all times.
I came to the conclusion tonight that there should be cameras above every poker table as in roulette, so the disputes similar to these can be easily rectified, regardless of the cries " but the cards have been mucked, so I win "
Well done Dani. 
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« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2005, 01:58:58 AM »

Slightly concerning that the exact same mistake was made twice, with the dealer mucking the cards on both occasions.

How did u get on, I KNOW IT?
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