Skanked in pub game.

[Mango99]

On Wednesday night I was invited by a mate to play poker in a pub in Battersea. Low stakes stuff (Dealer's Choice, £20 buy-in, 10p/20p blinds). As I was due to be in London on Thursday morning for a meeting anyway, I thought 'why not?' and travelled down.

Upon arriving at the pub, we're taken upstairs to a function room where me, my mate, and 2 of his mates from the London Poker Group, sit down at the empty table.

The seating was thus:
1. Me
2. Rob
3. Jonnell
4. Chriss
5. Mateyboy1
6. Mateyboy2

The first four hands are chosen to be Hold'em, and I'm up to £35. Hand 5 and it's Mateyboy1's turn to deal and he chooses 5-Card Draw.

I get dealt:   

Mateyboy2 who has been knocking back the whisky at a rate of knots, shouts over "oy! barmaid, another double whisky"... Whilst saying this he leans back in his chair, but holds his hand with the cards in towards the table, meaning I see 3 of the cards in his hand.

They are: 

The betting round takes place, with mateyboy2 betting £2, me raising to £8 and everyone on the table calling.

Mateyboy2 decides to change two cards (keeping the trip jacks I assume). I change 2 cards and get dealt: 

Mmmmmm.. Quads, nice

The other 4 players change 1 or 2 cards each. The the next round of betting starts.
Mateyboy2 checks. I check my Quads. Rob to my left chucks in £10. Jonnell calls him. Chris folds, and Mateyboy1 folds.

Mateyboy2 calls. I raise to £20, Chris says "all-in", Jonnell says "call", Mateyboy 2 says "call", and I say "all-in" (I have everyone but Mateyboy2 covered by about a tenner). Mateyboy 2 dwells for a while, then calls.

Now comes the showdown.

Rob: 
Jonnell: 
Me: 
Mateyboy2: 

WTF?!

I then say to Mateyboy2 "that can't be possible. I saw your hand pre-flop and you held 3 Jacks, and only changed two cards. You can't end up from that with a straight flush..."

Mateyboy2 replies "are you accusing me of cheating?"

I say "Yes, I guess I am."

However, then Rob says to me "it actually is possible if he was holding, say, and decided to chuck ".

No matter how unlikely I imagine that scenario to be, I have to concede that it is possible that is what has just happened, and apologise to Mateyboy for calling him a cheat!!

He says "f*** this. I'm not playing with someone who accuses me of cheating. I'm leaving." With that he storms out the room. The guy running the poker night then comes over and collects all Mateyboys chips off the table for him so he can cash in.

Mateyboy1 then gets up and says "I'm leaving too", leaving 4 of us at the table, stunned at what we've just witnessed.

It reminded me a lot of the scene in the film Croupier, when each player round the table has a better hand than the player before . e.g Pair > Two Pairs > Trips > Straight > Flush > Full House > Straight Flush.

Was I had? Or was I (and the 3 other losers) just very unlucky?

What are the odds of a 6 player table with 4 players holding: Flush, Full House, Quads, Straight Flush?

edit: realised I had the two mateyboy's the wrong way round
edit2: had listed the King of Clubs twice...

[kinboshi]

That sounds like something out of a film - definitely not a freak coincidence is it?

I'm sure someone will give you the odds of you have KKK and him JJJ, and you drawing quads whilst he throws away two cards from his set in the hope he draws two exact cards for his str8 flush.

Where did mateyboy 1 & 2 come from? 

[lazaroonie]

london pub you say ?
upstairs room you say ?
unlicensed premises you say ?
dodgy geezers you say ?
drunk stooge  you say ?

what bit of this are you surprised about ?
the only surprise is that you only got skanked for 30 quid.

[Mango99]

That sounds like something out of a film - definitely not a freak coincidence is it?

I'm sure someone will give you the odds of you have KKK and him JJJ, and you drawing quads whilst he throws away two cards from his set in the hope he draws two exact cards for his str8 flush.

Where did mateyboy 1 & 2 come from? 

Mateyboy1 sounded scottish, though I don't know where he was from. Don't know where Mateyboy2 was from either. We only played 5 hands together, so there wasn't much time for small talk...

[kinboshi]

That sounds like something out of a film - definitely not a freak coincidence is it?

I'm sure someone will give you the odds of you have KKK and him JJJ, and you drawing quads whilst he throws away two cards from his set in the hope he draws two exact cards for his str8 flush.

Where did mateyboy 1 & 2 come from? 

Mateyboy1 sounded scottish, though I don't know where he was from. Don't know where Mateyboy2 was from either. We only played 5 hands together, so there wasn't much time for small talk...

Was it 'their' game?

[Mango99]

london pub you say ?
upstairs room you say ?
unlicensed premises you say ?
dodgy geezers you say ?
drunk stooge  you say ?

what bit of this are you surprised about ?
the only surprise is that you only got skanked for 30 quid.

Lol, good point I don't make a habit of playing poker in pubs. This was a one-off due to having to be in London for a business meeting anyway.

[lazaroonie]

That sounds like something out of a film - definitely not a freak coincidence is it?

I'm sure someone will give you the odds of you have KKK and him JJJ, and you drawing quads whilst he throws away two cards from his set in the hope he draws two exact cards for his str8 flush.

Where did mateyboy 1 & 2 come from? 

Mateyboy1 sounded scottish, though I don't know where he was from. Don't know where Mateyboy2 was from either. We only played 5 hands together, so there wasn't much time for small talk...

Was it 'their' game?

sounds like it.

 

[Mango99]

That sounds like something out of a film - definitely not a freak coincidence is it?

I'm sure someone will give you the odds of you have KKK and him JJJ, and you drawing quads whilst he throws away two cards from his set in the hope he draws two exact cards for his str8 flush.

Where did mateyboy 1 & 2 come from? 

Mateyboy1 sounded scottish, though I don't know where he was from. Don't know where Mateyboy2 was from either. We only played 5 hands together, so there wasn't much time for small talk...

Was it 'their' game?

No, the game was run by another guy (the guy who collected all the chips from the table at the end). I forget his name. There were 2 other full tables playing too. The two guys who joined our table walked in and sat down straight after we had sat down.

[doubleup]

I think the fact that there were 2 in the pack would be a clue that things weren't kosher.......

[Mango99]

I think the fact that there were 2 in the pack would be a clue that things weren't kosher.......

Doh, I couldn't remember the exact hands of Rob and Jonnell, but knew that Rob either had a King or Ace high flush (not sure which suit), and Jonnell had a full house with both cards not being picture cards.

Have edited my post above. I also remember that Rob told me he was drawing to an open ended straight flush, and took just 1 card.

[thetank]

lol, how bad is that.

Ace high flush, full boat, and quads against a straight flush at 5 card draw.

You got proper fiddled.

I would have been giggling like a schoolgirl at his indignance at the cheating accusation. Then the concession that he may not have been and the apology, I wouldn't have been able to stop myself laughing. This is why no-one takes me round the pubs in Battersea, I'd get everyone stabbed.

[Nem]

  for saying "Skanked"

I haven't heard that one for ages...

[JungleCat03]

lol, definitely skanked mate.

If it happened on the internet and someone said rigged i would post up something about random number generators being audited, but live there's no doubt this was fixed as this s**t doesn't happen live unless the game is bent or they're filming rounders II.

Like Laz said though, at least you got out pretty cheap!

[kinboshi]

Sounds like Sofa King was dealing.  Seriously good card tricks from the Big fella.

[boldie]

yeah I would ask him to teach me how to deal like that..he could keep my 30£