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kinboshi
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Flopped set - cash game
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March 25, 2007, 10:33:44 PM »
I've got a fairly solid image, especially compared to a few on the table.
There's a standard raise pre-flop, I call with
, and there's one other caller. Both the raiser and the caller are loose. We all have stacks of about the same size (mine is around the max buy-in, the other caller has slightly less, and the raiser slightly more).
Flop comes
What do I do, I'm first to act?
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Re: Flopped set - cash game
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March 25, 2007, 11:24:22 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on March 25, 2007, 10:33:44 PM
I've got a fairly solid image, especially compared to a few on the table.
There's a standard raise pre-flop, I call with
, and there's one other caller. Both the raiser and the caller are loose. We all have stacks of about the same size (mine is around the max buy-in, the other caller has slightly less, and the raiser slightly more).
Flop comes
What do I do, I'm first to act?
I'd be prepared to get it all in the middle on the flop, but I wouldn't bet out.
If the loose player in the BB doesn't make a bet, then the original raiser is almost certain to. I'd let him bet and then decide whether to make a risky call or to raise.
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Re: Flopped set - cash game
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March 25, 2007, 11:31:48 PM »
you have 2 loose players behind you. so it's gotta be a big check raise surely?
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Re: Flopped set - cash game
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March 25, 2007, 11:37:05 PM »
I want to try to control the pot here, mainly because there are a few hands that will not pass. I dont see the point in building a huge pot on the flop by check raising or betting out. I check call or pass dependant on action and reevaluate the turn.
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March 26, 2007, 12:00:34 AM »
Not that it matters really, but I bet out and they all folded.
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March 26, 2007, 12:04:06 AM »
if you get raised do you go all the way?
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Re: Flopped set - cash game
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March 26, 2007, 01:09:58 AM »
Quote from: jezza777 on March 26, 2007, 12:04:06 AM
if you get raised do you go all the way?
Of course. At that stage your odds are way too good to pass. You have more than sufficient outs against an unlikley flush (unless it's a Royal) or straght to make it an auto call.
Many loose players will happily be prepared to go broke on this flop with plenty of hands you are ahead of: A draw, AA, AhKx even AxKx.
If you're behind to a higher set then so be it.
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Re: Flopped set - cash game
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March 26, 2007, 11:45:37 AM »
NO ONE HAS ASKED ABOUT STACK SIZES!!! >:?
How can anyone say get it all in on the flop when you have no idea how deep everyone is playing?
Since I would rarely play a shallow stacked cash game I check call here every time because I know that will be scary for my opponents and they'e unlikely to bluff the turn on such a scary board.
The shallower the stack the more I lean towards getting it all in on the flop, but I would never be happy about that on this flop.
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Quote from: The_Diamond on March 26, 2007, 11:45:37 AM
NO ONE HAS ASKED ABOUT STACK SIZES!!! >:?
How can anyone say get it all in on the flop when you have no idea how deep everyone is playing?
Since I would rarely play a shallow stacked cash game I check call here every time because I know that will be scary for my opponents and they'e unlikely to bluff the turn on such a scary board.
The shallower the stack the more I lean towards getting it all in on the flop, but I would never be happy about that on this flop.
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We all have stacks of about the same size (mine is around the max buy-in, the other caller has slightly less, and the raiser slightly more).
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Quote from: byronkincaid on March 26, 2007, 11:50:55 AM
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We all have stacks of about the same size (mine is around the max buy-in, the other caller has slightly less, and the raiser slightly more).
lol! i'll get me coat.
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Quote from: The_Diamond on March 26, 2007, 12:14:37 PM
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We all have stacks of about the same size (mine is around the max buy-in, the other caller has slightly less, and the raiser slightly more).
lol! i'll get me coat.
Apology accepted.
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March 27, 2007, 01:02:33 AM »
I am a losing player in cash games so my thinking could be fundamentaly flawed but I do not understand the eagerness to get stacks in here. Sure, loose players are playing a wider range but I cant see how check raising here and getting your stack in is a good idea. Loose players may play a wide range of hands but you will only be getting raised and called here if you are drawing or in a marginal situation. I cannot see Ax Kx raising then calling here , ok so the Ah may go all the way and you will have outs v a made flush or straight but there are way better spots for your cash than this.
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March 27, 2007, 01:14:11 AM »
ID go for the Check Raise here. Definetly.
But what would be much more likely is the check round to see the
turn.
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March 27, 2007, 03:57:11 AM »
Quote from: jezza777 on March 27, 2007, 01:02:33 AM
I am a losing player in cash games so my thinking could be fundamentaly flawed but I do not understand the eagerness to get stacks in here.
I wouldn't be over eager to get it all in here on the flop but, as I already said, I would be prepared to. (I.e. I'm not folding on this flop.)
I also wouldn't check/raise. I'd call, and decide how to play once the turn hits.
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March 27, 2007, 01:10:00 PM »
This is the crappest way to flop a set and against serious heat id be folding.
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