The Cincinnati Club

[elblondie]

Its all yours 

[Newmanseye]

Sorry Tony, I should have said in the Live poker tab, My mistake.

If you refer to the Cardroom schedules, there is no ad, but we do list Cincins Tourneys. That is done as much for the benefit of the readers as CinCins, but I hear what you say, & we'll have a pow-wow tomorrow & decide what line to take.The whole situation is quite difficult.

As you can imagine, there is much hubba-bubba backstage right now!

surley u can not stop ppl talking about cin cins becoz one of your members has a problm with the owners.

Not even worth the reply i had originally typed John, everyone knows where your allegiances lie.

[jockarooney]

Everybody is talking about this ! You should have waited and done the story in the News of the World. You would have got your money back and a profit ! And still told your story.  ......    maybe it's not too late (he he)......  Shame Paul Carnegie was treated like that, you made a good appointment taking him there too.But having a dealer working 10 hrs is a joke, how many bad beats could a person listen to in 10hrs ?  I think i'll be putting a dealer on Roberts table alot more now when he comes in to play !

[elblondie]

Yes I must admit I feel that Paul leaving was a critical mistake. I can't really comment though because I still dont know the facts around the problems between Paul & Sid. Sadly for me it was impossible to defend Paul's corner as I was only there 2 or 3 days in 7.
The point was Paul was the 'Cardroom Manager' so theoretically responsible for getting to the bottom of problems like the ones we had at the time. This may have been an impossible task though.
It was a very sad situation and I regret the fact paul had to leave. He had his heart set on the club and with him I may have eventually kept the required control on the clubs affairs before they nose dived.
Co-incidently I have just bumped into him for the first time since, here in Dublin.

[johnlarsson]

Sorry Tony, I should have said in the Live poker tab, My mistake.

If you refer to the Cardroom schedules, there is no ad, but we do list Cincins Tourneys. That is done as much for the benefit of the readers as CinCins, but I hear what you say, & we'll have a pow-wow tomorrow & decide what line to take.The whole situation is quite difficult.

As you can imagine, there is much hubba-bubba backstage right now!

surley u can not stop ppl talking about cin cins becoz one of your members has a problm with the owners.

Not even worth the reply i had originally typed John, everyone knows where your allegiances lie.

and that is meant to mean what exactly?
my "allegiances" dont lie with anyone. altho when my father runs the tournmanents then yes my "allegiances" may lie more on there side.

however this is not about sides.. this is between elblondie and the cin cin owners. noboday should be taking sides. altho it looks like you have

[Newmanseye]

Sorry Tony, I should have said in the Live poker tab, My mistake.

If you refer to the Cardroom schedules, there is no ad, but we do list Cincins Tourneys. That is done as much for the benefit of the readers as CinCins, but I hear what you say, & we'll have a pow-wow tomorrow & decide what line to take.The whole situation is quite difficult.

As you can imagine, there is much hubba-bubba backstage right now!

surley u can not stop ppl talking about cin cins becoz one of your members has a problm with the owners.

Not even worth the reply i had originally typed John, everyone knows where your allegiances lie.

and that is meant to mean what exactly?
my "allegiances" dont lie with anyone. altho when my father runs the tournmanents then yes my "allegiances" may lie more on there side.

however this is not about sides.. this is between elblondie and the cin cin owners. noboday should be taking sides. altho it looks like you have

Yes My allegience lies with good poker for the Glasgow market!!  Which was something we would have had a chance at if elblondie had a chance to run the porker room properly!

As for what it means John, try working it out.

[johnlarsson]

billy your allegiance lies with yourself. the same as mine lies with myself.

I am simply saying you cant stop ppl talking about the club they play in because a member or shareholder has  a problem with the owner. Its not there fault.

TIkay/tightend. thanks for allowing us to continue to post

[elblondie]

Yes I certainly see the problems with the owners playing in their own club (and officially I am still a one third owner) and your points are very valid.
However, I played in the club to promote the club. A lot of players wanted to play with me and hopefull enjoyed playing me. I felt it was part of promoting the club. As you say that does cause a few problems as well though.
I fact Sid bemoans the fact that I stopped playing and uses that as the excuse for the failure of the club, or so I believe.

In an earlier comment it was also mentioned the facts outlined at the start were my point of view and not that of the owners. That may not be a true statement. So far to date, Tony & Sid have never denied owing me the £25,000. they just keep saying 'you will get it'. generally speaking they wold not disagree with any of the facts outlined in the original post.

[cambo]

Yes I certainly see the problems with the owners playing in their own club (and officially I am still a one third owner) and your points are very valid.
However, I played in the club to promote the club. A lot of players wanted to play with me and hopefull enjoyed playing me. part of promoting the club. As you say that does cause a few problems as well though.
I fact Sid bemoans the fact that I stopped playing and uses that as the excuse for the failure of the club, or so I believe.

In an earlier comment it was also mentioned the facts outlined at the start were my point of view and not that of the owners. That may not be a true statement. So far to date, Tony & Sid have never denied owing me the £25,000. they just keep saying 'you will get it'. generally speaking they wold not disagree with any of the facts outlined in the original post.

yeah it was cool to tell my mates that i had sat at the same table as you and WSOP braclet winner brian wilson even if it was only a £20 rebuy.

if you were to get ur money back would we see you back playing at cincins or is it past that stage for you now?

[mickeymouse]

Everybody here has heard one side of a story and some are quite quick to react and feel sorry for Dave Colclough.

Some Facts

Dave lost interest very quickly(2 weeks) in the club,and then started to show up whenever there was an Omaha cash game,once or twice a week.FACT.

Dave employed two members of staff, Paul and Graham who were both sacked for reasons ( but they both know as does Dave,who himself agreed).FACT.

Dave organised 3 events at the club,but only showed up for 2.FACT.

Dave organised for the guaranteed prize pools for certain tournaments,in which Littlewoods would cover the short fall.FACT.

The club lost nearly £10K in shortfall (which was paid by one owner Sid Iannu,out of his own pocket) because Dave broke the contract with Littlewoods.
Nearly £5000 was added alone to £100 Re-buy(£10K Guaranteed) which was held on a Sat evening and also clashed with another event.FACT.

Newmanseye has a big mouth and likes to get his bit in,especially since he's been barred from the club.FACT.

Dave made a check payable to a so called friend of his,absolutely nothing to do with the club.The club never recieved a penny from Dave or his friend (£25K that everyone is moaning about)in the time he was here.FACT.

Dave get a life and sort out your personal shit elsewhere.

I play in Cincinnatis every night,and it might have taken a while,but the club seems to be running better than ever.

If you got done for your money in dodgy business deal and buying a house,hopefully you will learn from your mistakes,and I would advise drawing up of a contract before you part with substantial amounts of money.Any good business man knows that.

You were once respected at the Cincinnati Club,but now people here think you are an arsehole.FACT.

[elblondie]

Dave lost interest very quickly(2 weeks) in the club,and then started to show up whenever there was an Omaha cash game,once or twice a week.FACT.

This is not a FACT. There is no truth in this statement. If I wasn't being ripped off I would still be there today.

[elblondie]

Dave employed two members of staff, Paul and Graham who were both sacked for reasons ( but they both know as does Dave,who himself agreed).FACT.

This is not a FACT. I did not employ Graham.
I employed Paul and Tank only

[elblondie]

The club lost nearly £10K in shortfall (which was paid by one owner Sid Iannu,out of his own pocket) because Dave broke the contract with Littlewoods.
Nearly £5000 was added alone to £100 Re-buy(£10K Guaranteed) which was held on a Sat evening and also clashed with another event.FACT.

This is not a fact.
a) they didnt lose that money
b) the money that was lost was due to the laziness in not promoting the competitions when i wasnt prepared to do all the work
c) I have never broke any contract with Littlewoods or anyone else for hat matter

this post looks like a load of made-up gobbledegook

[elblondie]

Dave made a check payable to a so called friend of his,absolutely nothing to do with the club.The club never recieved a penny from Dave or his friend (£25K that everyone is moaning about)in the time he was here.FACT.
You were once respected at the Cincinnati Club,but now people here think you are an arsehole.FACT.

This is not a FACT either. The individual, Tony Girasoli was an owner of the club and the premises. A FACT conveniently forgotten. And how on earth would you know what the agreed deal was?

Arsehole or not. The FACTs and truth are as stated. If Sid & Tony can't handle the truth then that's their problem.
Wanna try making something slightly more believeable up ?

[Indestructable]

Seems a lot of MickeyMouse stuff to me.  

So is Tony still connected to the club?