The Cincinnati Club

[mjrevie]

It started off as a slaggin of the current owners of the club. It then became a slaggin of the product provided by the club. I think it should be possible to distinguish between these two things. Unfortunately, things go on behind the scenes at hundreds of companies but it doesnt stop any of us using that companies products if we so desire - if we believe we are going to benefit from purchasing that product. 

The purpose of this thread was to highlight the stuff going on at the club behind the scenes - not to criticise the poker side of the club. I think the two things sould be kept seperate. Otherwise it just detracts from Dave's orignal post.

[Acidmouse]

I think a forum is a great place to air one's views. If a person/club dont like that tough shit, either ignore it or prove them wrong.

[mjrevie]

I think a forum is a great place to air one's views. If a person/club dont like that tough shit, either ignore it or prove them wrong.

Its just getting a bit tit-for-tat is it not. Hardly very constructive criticism or responese?

[BigTomatoes]

 im not criticising or slagging anyone , im a member of the club and used to go weekly , i havent been for months.

 and that is for pretty much the same reason as you , i do not like the games they put on , and i also dont like the atmosphere , contrary to what other people say , i cant agree everyone in the club is friendly , and ive also witnessed cheating at my table.

 the wabash used to be a crapshoot bingo fest pot limit rebuy every night , now they have their structures , range of games sorted , the service and atmosphere is second to none .

 the wabash is the same as cin cins , they have a core of regulars but arent as busy as they should be , of course you cant please all the people all of the time , but you should at least listen to members and at least try to appear to be making an effort to change things for the better.

 i was just pointing out , with 3000 members , the main cardoom in one of the liveliest citys in Britain should be averaging more than 2-3 tables a night

 i also think if dave was given a real chance , the club would be in far better shape right now.

[mjrevie]

i was just pointing out , with 3000 members , the main cardoom in one of the liveliest citys in Britain should be averaging more than 2-3 tables a night

I couldnt agree more with you. I think it is strange that between the Wabash, Cins and the riverboat, there are about 100 people each night in Glasgow playin live (obviously not including home games). There is a huge market out there that really shoud be tapped into and I agree that if Dave had been given full control, it is likely that Cins at least would be getting more than 30 people in their door most nights.

[BigTomatoes]

 if u agree with me , why come on and quote one of my posts as a degeneration into a slagging match ?

 i never slagged anyone , now you say you agree with me ?

 think about your posts in future and you wont contradict yourself.

[mjrevie]

I can agree with what you say without agreeing with how you put it, can I not?

And I quoted many comments, not just your own. How do you know I was targeting yours?

[Swordpoker]

I too am a member but rarely go.

I don't like the tournament structures (too much focus on rebuys and not enough freezeouts for my liking)

And the start times infuriate me. They always seem to be waiting for more people to turn up before they start and as a result people know the tourneys don't start on time so they turn up even later.

I've attempted to express my opinion once before on the structures but was 'shot down' as I wasn't regular enough for my opinion to matter.

[damon]

I agree that members should be heard and last year when I run some of the tournaments,there was no shortage of advice.
It is all well coming and saying dae this,dae that,but as I said in my previous reply,it is an impossibility to please all members.
All the venues in Glasgow do it their own way.which is fair enough and probably better for the Glasgow poker player.They go where it suits them. Many who play in the Casinos,like the unlimited rebuys(1500). Cincinnatis has also tried the unlimited rebuys,which didn't go to well with the members(understandable).
The players at Cincinnatis want to to have a game of poker and I think John has done a great job with the tournaments and league.
It also proves the fact there have been so many changes in the past,the club has tried to accomodate as many ideas from its members as possible.
I do think that John has been the right choice for the running of tournaments and league.The best to date.
The present schedule with four Freezeouts a week and the other three days have Limited Rebuys. The tournaments on offer give the players a chance to play poker unlike in the Casinos,but that doesn't mean that one of the venues is wrong...simply different.
I would also say that the better poker player plays in Cincinnatis (a large %) and the gamblers play in Casinos.

[Swordpoker]

I agree that members should be heard and last year when I run some of the tournaments,there was no shortage of advice.
It is all well coming and saying dae this,dae that,but as I said in my previous reply,it is an impossibility to please all members.
All the venues in Glasgow do it their own way.which is fair enough and probably better for the Glasgow poker player.They go where it suits them. Many who play in the Casinos,like the unlimited rebuys(1500). Cincinnatis has also tried the unlimited rebuys,which didn't go to well with the members(understandable).
The players at Cincinnatis want to to have a game of poker and I think John has done a great job with the tournaments and league.
It also proves the fact there have been so many changes in the past,the club has tried to accomodate as many ideas from its members as possible.
I do think that John has been the right choice for the running of tournaments and league.The best to date.
The present schedule with four Freezeouts a week and the other three days have Limited Rebuys. The tournaments on offer give the players a chance to play poker unlike in the Casinos,but that doesn't mean that one of the venues is wrong...simply different.
I would also say that the better poker player plays in Cincinnatis (a large %) and the gamblers play in Casinos.

Wow, 4 freezeouts a week now. I take back what I said about the structures in that case, sorry.

[Ecosse]

I do think that John has been the right choice for the running of tournaments and league.The best to date.

And an extremely nice guy as well. (edit. not in gay boy sense for any gay lords reading)

Dougie.

[johnbhoy76]

I think a forum is a great place to air one's views. If a person/club dont like that tough shit, either ignore it or prove them wrong.

So if someone accused me of doing something, it is up to me to prove them wrong?

That's nonsense.

It's up to the person making the allegations to prove it. The person being accussed doesn't have to say or do anything

[vinni]

listen ,some one said it started of as a slanging match .WRONG .
it was about a poker club to which some one had bought a share in ,for 25 k .
with the promise of the 25k being available to upgrade the club .
this never happened as was promised ,plus the sale of some house .
so all mr DC was explaining was why he has cut all ties with the club .
so all you lot what are saying this and that about poker in scotland (and having a dig at him at the same time )
dont realise you lot have lost one man who could have brought better games to cincins ,through noledge and advertising .
still if your happy to play tournys with 30/ 40 players thats your clubs fault .
i know if i played in scotland i would deffinatly not play there again .
why would you want to when the play some where whats not keeping up with the times .

             thx barry .

[vinni]

listen ,some one said it started of as a slanging match .WRONG .
it was about a poker club to which some one had bought a share in ,for 25 k .
with the promise of the 25k being available to upgrade the club .
this never happened as was promised ,plus the sale of some house .
so all mr DC was explaining was why he has cut all ties with the club .
so all you lot what are saying this and that about poker in scotland (and having a dig at him at the same time )
dont realise you lot have lost one man who could have brought better games to cincins ,through knowledge and advertising .
still if your happy to play tourneys with 30/ 40 players thats your clubs fault .
i know if i played in Scotland i would defiantly not play there again .
why would you want to when the play some where whats not keeping up with the times .

             THC Barry .

[vinni]

knowledge lol