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« on: April 20, 2007, 01:22:25 PM »

$2-4 NLHE 8 handed

raise to $8 in MP...$450 stack

flat call in CO.. $375 stack

you on button with  , call the $8...$450 stack

bb makes up the $4...$330 stack

$34 in pot

flop

 

bb bets $16

original raiser makes it $32

CO folds

back to you

CO is unknown

BB is Red-Dog.


do you flat call or raise again, hoping a set or nut spade draw shoves it in? 

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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2007, 01:33:11 PM »

fold red dog has quads
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2007, 03:46:17 PM »

fold red dog has quads

all spades.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 04:45:27 PM »

Cold-calling the $32 you may as well type 'trapping with huge hand' in the chat box so you've got to raise.

Make it $90 and give them the opportunity to push.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2007, 04:50:46 PM »

You have to raise and build the pot.

There are 19 scare cards to a set-holder that could fall on the turn and slow down the action, and he's then only going to give you action if he fills up on the river.

If he's not holding a set, then you want to charge him more regardless of his holding.

If you raise, and lose them both then you were unlikely to win too much more off of them anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2007, 04:03:47 AM »

You have to raise and build the pot.

There are 19 scare cards to a set-holder that could fall on the turn and slow down the action, and he's then only going to give you action if he fills up on the river.If he's not holding a set, then you want to charge him more regardless of his holding.

If you raise, and lose them both then you were unlikely to win too much more off of them anyway.

  Stop giving responses of this quality!!! Smiley

Personally, this looks like a perfect opportunity for an overbet to me. His re-raise stinks of a set. Given the way other players play a NF Draw with 2 overs, you can really put him to the test here. As smartmoney points out, so many cards are going to kill your action on the turn. If you ship all-in now from an equity perspective its a winning play if he has a set. Cant be bothered to show the math here but when the stacks are this deep he only has to call about 20% of the time to make this the BEST play possible.

Works even better if ur a lag. 
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2007, 11:21:28 AM »

but red dog is in the pot the only man tighter than tightend

surely reddog must have an idea that he is winning the pot dispite not leading
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2007, 05:51:00 PM »

I made it $100, both passed

Original raiser claimed AA.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2007, 06:35:15 PM »

what did red have?  dont say a bluff otherwise are you sure it was theee red dog
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2007, 08:29:01 AM »

I made it $100, both passed

Original raiser claimed AA.

Was it TK?!?!?

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2007, 09:32:45 AM »

What's your Alias on blonde Rich?
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2007, 11:02:48 AM »

What's your Alias on blonde Rich?

I think he is "bulldozer" or something equally apt......
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2007, 02:23:32 PM »

yeehh

im thinking of raising to $100

then i seen ur reply...( happy that im on the right track )

im starting to play more n more cash,enjoying it far more than stt's at the moment
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2007, 11:39:51 PM »

What's your Alias on blonde Rich?


Natrykris


We sometimes share the same tables but to be frank I try and steer clear of you. Not because we are mates but because I reckon there are fishier/weaker players I have notes on than you!

However sometimes needs must.
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