WPT $25,000 Final: FINAL TABLE

[HornswaggleU]

Personally, I'm a little fatigued today after playing cash poker at the Orleans' Hotel & Casino until 6am last night. I don't get too many opportunities to play live these days so even if I'm tired, I make sure I take the chance to hit the felt. Unfortunately, this can be a costly affair as proved last night when I did my bollox with Aces.

If anyone could give me their opinion on the following hand, I would be much appreciative.

$1/2 10-handed ring game. I'd been keeping my head above water since 3am and had around 350k. I was dealt in early position and decided to raise it up to $17, which somehow found me four callers.

Flop =

Out of position, I decided to check and see what everyone else did.

The first caller made it $25, the maniac behind him (who would raise with a big hand) flat called behind him, the other two players passed and I flat called.

The bettor had previously trap-checked two pairs and sets, so I didn't think he had a stronger hand. He might have a flush draw, but he tended to check these hands and flat call when the maniac bet.

Turn =

I checked, the Flop bettor shoved in $50, the maniac folded and I re-raised to $150, confident that I was ahead.

He called the bet, which signified to me that he didn't have a set or the flush - previousl experience with him would suggest that he'd push with these hands. I was, however, concerned about some sort of two pair, such as T-8, but I actually put him on A-T or K-T with maybe a spade.

River =

I pushed in for my remaining $150 and he called, showing for the turned straight, which would explain why he smooth called my re-raise.

Now, I'm pretty sure I played this terribly, but I'd really like to know how you guys would have played it.

Move up levels.



You can afford to play higher than 1-2 with 350k on the table, take a shot in the $2-$5 game.

[snoopy1239]

Paul Lee raises it up to 300k, Guy calls and the two players see a Flop.

Guys bets out 600k ad Lee folds instantly.

[snoopy1239]

No messing around from Mike Wattel, he just moved all-in preflop to take the pot down uncontested.

[snoopy1239]

Personally, I'm a little fatigued today after playing cash poker at the Orleans' Hotel & Casino until 6am last night. I don't get too many opportunities to play live these days so even if I'm tired, I make sure I take the chance to hit the felt. Unfortunately, this can be a costly affair as proved last night when I did my bollox with Aces.

If anyone could give me their opinion on the following hand, I would be much appreciative.

$1/2 10-handed ring game. I'd been keeping my head above water since 3am and had around 350k. I was dealt in early position and decided to raise it up to $17, which somehow found me four callers.

Flop =

Out of position, I decided to check and see what everyone else did.

The first caller made it $25, the maniac behind him (who would raise with a big hand) flat called behind him, the other two players passed and I flat called.

The bettor had previously trap-checked two pairs and sets, so I didn't think he had a stronger hand. He might have a flush draw, but he tended to check these hands and flat call when the maniac bet.

Turn =

I checked, the Flop bettor shoved in $50, the maniac folded and I re-raised to $150, confident that I was ahead.

He called the bet, which signified to me that he didn't have a set or the flush - previousl experience with him would suggest that he'd push with these hands. I was, however, concerned about some sort of two pair, such as T-8, but I actually put him on A-T or K-T with maybe a spade.

River =

I pushed in for my remaining $150 and he called, showing for the turned straight, which would explain why he smooth called my re-raise.

Now, I'm pretty sure I played this terribly, but I'd really like to know how you guys would have played it.

Move up levels.



You can afford to play higher than 1-2 with 350k on the table, take a shot in the $2-$5 game.

Well, I normally play $2/4 in England, but this was just a bit of fun as I was really tired after covering the comp all day. However, I still don't want to chuck 350k away if I can help it though. 

[HornswaggleU]

Personally, I'm a little fatigued today after playing cash poker at the Orleans' Hotel & Casino until 6am last night. I don't get too many opportunities to play live these days so even if I'm tired, I make sure I take the chance to hit the felt. Unfortunately, this can be a costly affair as proved last night when I did my bollox with Aces.

If anyone could give me their opinion on the following hand, I would be much appreciative.

$1/2 10-handed ring game. I'd been keeping my head above water since 3am and had around 350k. I was dealt in early position and decided to raise it up to $17, which somehow found me four callers.

Flop =

Out of position, I decided to check and see what everyone else did.

The first caller made it $25, the maniac behind him (who would raise with a big hand) flat called behind him, the other two players passed and I flat called.

The bettor had previously trap-checked two pairs and sets, so I didn't think he had a stronger hand. He might have a flush draw, but he tended to check these hands and flat call when the maniac bet.

Turn =

I checked, the Flop bettor shoved in $50, the maniac folded and I re-raised to $150, confident that I was ahead.

He called the bet, which signified to me that he didn't have a set or the flush - previousl experience with him would suggest that he'd push with these hands. I was, however, concerned about some sort of two pair, such as T-8, but I actually put him on A-T or K-T with maybe a spade.

River =

I pushed in for my remaining $150 and he called, showing for the turned straight, which would explain why he smooth called my re-raise.

Now, I'm pretty sure I played this terribly, but I'd really like to know how you guys would have played it.

Move up levels.



You can afford to play higher than 1-2 with 350k on the table, take a shot in the $2-$5 game.

Well, I normally play $2/4 in England, but this was just a bit of fun as I was really tired after covering the comp all day. However, I still don't want to chuck 350k away if I can help it though. 

Imagine what Carlos could built with 350k in a $1-$2 cash game, a Taj Mahal? The Great wall of China?

[Djinn]

Mortensen vs. Lee again:
flop. check-check
Turn:  Paul checks, Carlos checks.
Paul bets a mil, and Carlos eventually passes.  One all in these matchups - "Show the bluff," requests Carlos.  Denied!

[snoopy1239]

BREAKING NEWS

Guy Laliberte is the 654th richest man in the world with 1.4 billion dollars.

I think Mr Nipper will definitely be making an appearance if Guy wins.

[Djinn]

Very short stacked Tim Phan gets it all in preflop with vs. Guy Laliberte's ...
Flop: 
Turn:   And the crowd go wild as the river becomes an irrelevance.  It sounds like some were shouting "Boo!" but I think it was "Boom!" as they were smiling and clapping at the same time.

Tim doubles up to 2,200,000.

[snoopy1239]

Mike Wattel raises it up pre-flop to 240k and Guy Laliberte calls.

Flop =

Mike bets out 500k, Guy announces all-in, and Mike swiftly folds, flapping his arms in the air in despair.

[Djinn]

Blind vs blind - Guy and Carlos:
check-check
Turn:  Guy checks, Carlos min bets and takes it down.
__________________________

Kirk makes it 425k preflop; Mike Wattel on the big blind moves in for another 432k - Call.  Pr
Kirk: 
Mike: 

Flop:    "ONE TIME!" go the audience
Turn:    "Oooooh," go the audience.  They sound like they've been spiked with something.
River: 

So amidst insane-sounding noise from the audience who seem to hold their peace until just such a situation, Mike Wattel finishes in 6th place, winning $309,405

[Djinn]

Guy raises to 500k preflop on the cutoff.  Tim Phan (minus black woolly hat by which he was instantly recognisable until today - he seems to have swapped it overnight for a new Full Tilt shirt...) calls it on the big blind.  They see:  . 
Tim bets 800k.  Guy announces all-in immediately (it's the second time on the Final he's done this - instamove over a bet at him) and it does the trick this time too.  Tim lays it down, leaving himself short once more.

[dino1980]

Personally, I'm a little fatigued today after playing cash poker at the Orleans' Hotel & Casino until 6am last night. I don't get too many opportunities to play live these days so even if I'm tired, I make sure I take the chance to hit the felt. Unfortunately, this can be a costly affair as proved last night when I did my bollox with Aces.

If anyone could give me their opinion on the following hand, I would be much appreciative.

$1/2 10-handed ring game. I'd been keeping my head above water since 3am and had around 350k. I was dealt in early position and decided to raise it up to $17, which somehow found me four callers.

Flop =

Out of position, I decided to check and see what everyone else did.

The first caller made it $25, the maniac behind him (who would raise with a big hand) flat called behind him, the other two players passed and I flat called.

The bettor had previously trap-checked two pairs and sets, so I didn't think he had a stronger hand. He might have a flush draw, but he tended to check these hands and flat call when the maniac bet.

Turn =

I checked, the Flop bettor shoved in $50, the maniac folded and I re-raised to $150, confident that I was ahead.

He called the bet, which signified to me that he didn't have a set or the flush - previousl experience with him would suggest that he'd push with these hands. I was, however, concerned about some sort of two pair, such as T-8, but I actually put him on A-T or K-T with maybe a spade.

River =

I pushed in for my remaining $150 and he called, showing for the turned straight, which would explain why he smooth called my re-raise.

Now, I'm pretty sure I played this terribly, but I'd really like to know how you guys would have played it.

I'll throw in my $0.02

Why not lead the flop there? It's co-ordinated enough that if one of your three oppenets has called your 8.5x bb raise with pocket sevens, tens or twos that they surely have to re-raise to protect against the draw heavy board?

Anyway as played: the first callers bet of $25 into a c.$85 pot wouldn't necessarily indicate strength but the smooth call by the mainac would. A tagged maniac has just smooth called - spideysenses going off?

So i guess i'd either fold or check raise the flop here. If i raise i make it at least a pot sized raise (which committs over half your stack, so some would say ship it all-in but i think a big raise, rather than an all-in can look stronger.)

But, i'm a poor cash game player, so please anyone, counter arguements to my thinking, is it majorly flawed? If you put your opponent on K-10 or A-10 is your line correct as there are v.few cards that can help him 'catch up' against your holding?

[snoopy1239]

Personally, I'm a little fatigued today after playing cash poker at the Orleans' Hotel & Casino until 6am last night. I don't get too many opportunities to play live these days so even if I'm tired, I make sure I take the chance to hit the felt. Unfortunately, this can be a costly affair as proved last night when I did my bollox with Aces.

If anyone could give me their opinion on the following hand, I would be much appreciative.

$1/2 10-handed ring game. I'd been keeping my head above water since 3am and had around 350k. I was dealt in early position and decided to raise it up to $17, which somehow found me four callers.

Flop =

Out of position, I decided to check and see what everyone else did.

The first caller made it $25, the maniac behind him (who would raise with a big hand) flat called behind him, the other two players passed and I flat called.

The bettor had previously trap-checked two pairs and sets, so I didn't think he had a stronger hand. He might have a flush draw, but he tended to check these hands and flat call when the maniac bet.

Turn =

I checked, the Flop bettor shoved in $50, the maniac folded and I re-raised to $150, confident that I was ahead.

He called the bet, which signified to me that he didn't have a set or the flush - previousl experience with him would suggest that he'd push with these hands. I was, however, concerned about some sort of two pair, such as T-8, but I actually put him on A-T or K-T with maybe a spade.

River =

I pushed in for my remaining $150 and he called, showing for the turned straight, which would explain why he smooth called my re-raise.

Now, I'm pretty sure I played this terribly, but I'd really like to know how you guys would have played it.

I'll throw in my $0.02

Why not lead the flop there? It's co-ordinated enough that if one of your three oppenets has called your 8.5x bb raise with pocket sevens, tens or twos that they surely have to re-raise to isolate?

Anyway as played: the first callers bet of $25 into a c.$85 pot wouldn't necessarily indicate strength but the smooth call by the mainac would. A tagged maniac has just smooth called - spdeysenses going off?

So i guess i'd either fold or check raise the flop here. If i raise i make it at least a pot sized raise (which committs over half your stack, so some would say ship it all-in but i think a big raise, rather than an all-in can look stronger.)

But, i'm a poor cash game player, so please anyone, counter arguements to my thinking, is it majorly flawed?

At the time, I thought I was way ahead against something like an Ace Ten and so didn't want to lose my man as I thought he'd pay me off. However, in hindsight, I probably should have done like you suggested and either led out or, my personal preference check raise a chunk of my stack. Might win a smaller pot, but at least I wouldn't risk donking off the whole lot.

With regards to the maniac, when I say maniac, I mean that he's not calculated enough to trap call with a monster. I wasn't worried about him in the slightest. In fact, I wanted him in some form as he was pretty easy to read and was the player that called off everyone's hands with virtually any two cards.

Thanks for the feeback.

[HornswaggleU]

Personally, I'm a little fatigued today after playing cash poker at the Orleans' Hotel & Casino until 6am last night. I don't get too many opportunities to play live these days so even if I'm tired, I make sure I take the chance to hit the felt. Unfortunately, this can be a costly affair as proved last night when I did my bollox with Aces.

If anyone could give me their opinion on the following hand, I would be much appreciative.

$1/2 10-handed ring game. I'd been keeping my head above water since 3am and had around 350k. I was dealt in early position and decided to raise it up to $17, which somehow found me four callers.

Flop =

Out of position, I decided to check and see what everyone else did.

The first caller made it $25, the maniac behind him (who would raise with a big hand) flat called behind him, the other two players passed and I flat called.

The bettor had previously trap-checked two pairs and sets, so I didn't think he had a stronger hand. He might have a flush draw, but he tended to check these hands and flat call when the maniac bet.

Turn =

I checked, the Flop bettor shoved in $50, the maniac folded and I re-raised to $150, confident that I was ahead.

He called the bet, which signified to me that he didn't have a set or the flush - previousl experience with him would suggest that he'd push with these hands. I was, however, concerned about some sort of two pair, such as T-8, but I actually put him on A-T or K-T with maybe a spade.

River =

I pushed in for my remaining $150 and he called, showing for the turned straight, which would explain why he smooth called my re-raise.

Now, I'm pretty sure I played this terribly, but I'd really like to know how you guys would have played it.

I'll throw in my $0.02

Why not lead the flop there? It's co-ordinated enough that if one of your three oppenets has called your 8.5x bb raise with pocket sevens, tens or twos that they surely have to re-raise to isolate?

Anyway as played: the first callers bet of $25 into a c.$85 pot wouldn't necessarily indicate strength but the smooth call by the mainac would. A tagged maniac has just smooth called - spdeysenses going off?

So i guess i'd either fold or check raise the flop here. If i raise i make it at least a pot sized raise (which committs over half your stack, so some would say ship it all-in but i think a big raise, rather than an all-in can look stronger.)

But, i'm a poor cash game player, so please anyone, counter arguements to my thinking, is it majorly flawed?

At the time, I thought I was way ahead against something like an Ace Ten and so didn't want to lose my man as I thought he'd pay me off. However, in hindsight, I probably should have done like you suggested and either led out or, my personal preference check raise a chunk of my stack. Might win a smaller pot, but at least I wouldn't risk donking off the whole lot.

With regards to the maniac, when I say maniac, I mean that he's not calculated enough to trap call with a monster. I wasn't worried about him in the slightest. In fact, I wanted him in some form as he was pretty easy to read and was the player that called off everyone's hands with virtually any two cards.

Thanks for the feeback.

I think check raise the bollix out of it is a great way to play it, especially in a loose live game with a maniac or 2 involved.
 

If the flop went as played, on the turn I wouldn't be check raising, and firing allin on the end, I'd be check-calling or grimicing at how I played it on the flop and considering a fold because of it.

I woudn't worry about trying to keep someone involved in a live 1-2 game, a lot of the players won't fold anything.

[Djinn]

There's been a break, during which something free with Mike Sexton's face on it was given away.  I think it was a bottle opener.  Anyway, as a sign of how seriously they take their filming:  "If anyone in the audience really needs to go the toilet, consider holding it or we will fill your seat, especially if you're in the front rows as we are filming.  This will be on TV."

They've raised the blinds to 100k/200k ante 20k.