Wrestlemania

[TightEnd]

12 left in a £13k prizepool comp

money starts at 9

550,000 in play

You have 56,000

to your left is chip leader 120,000, there are 3-4 stacks shorter than you at this point plus many in the range 50-80.


UTG with  , blinds are 2,000-4,000

raise to 12,000 six handed

pass to BB, with 48,000 total

he raises all in

36,000 back to you, pot 36,000+ 26,000= 62,000 or 1.7 to 1 to call

only 8,000 back if you lose, into BB next hand so this is in effect for your tournament

the bb is 77dave, who is capable of a re-steal  but knows I am unlikely to be mucking around much

His range of hands to me includes the obv ones I am dominated by with AA/KK/QQ/AK plus JJ, 1010, 99 maybe AQ, maybe lower pairs

so the range of hands to me suggests some caution, as I would weight towards the first grouping and JJ I suppose

but the odds to call suggest gambling and certainly dictate a call if I am up against any pair lower than QQ,

In addition I am at 10x bb if I pass with my ability to steal cramped by being OOP with a LAG chip leader

the potential 100,000 stack if I win would/should lead to a high finish

Given all that I called, after some mental wrestling.

I am not concerned for the purposes of this thread what he had. Its the thought process up to this point that concerns me please   

[GlasgowBandit]

Difficult one but having raised i don't think you can pass. He takes you as a rock is it possible that he is at the steal based on the fact that if you have a non premium hand eg AA, KK, he thinks he can get you to fold?

I am personally calling.  I think this is an ideal opportunity to race, if your right you have a powerful stack and it could be a while before you pick up another hand like this.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

I fold, he clearly has only one hand here - AA

[Rookie (Rodney)]

ps.. if bandit says call i definately fold.

[M3boy]

Once you have raised, you HAVE to call.

PS if it was me I would call with 2 3 o/s here as 77dave has NEVER beaten me when all in against him, NEVER ;p

[riverdave]

Personally don't think he is capable of a resteal in this situation against you. AQ is filth here and hits the muck fairly quickly for me, i may consider calling with some pairs but i think you've run into the boots.

[riverdave]

Your thought process seems to put him on a lot more hands that you are in big trouble against than hands you are 6/4 against or racing with. Typically against most of the range you are 3/1 or 5/2 worst case 12/1. Can't really justify a call then not getting at the very least 2/1 on your money.

[M3boy]

Incidently, who won last night?

77dave was looking good when I left

[77dave]

We did  a deal with 3 left

Anthony won it i finished 2nd

they have run the comp twice now  i have got 1/120 and 2/92

not bad if i do say so myself

[M3boy]

We did  a deal with 3 left

Anthony won it i finished 2nd

they have run the comp twice now  i have got 1/120 and 2/92

not bad if i do say so myself

Its what I would expect from Luton's No 1 Tourney player.

[TightEnd]

Your thought process seems to put him on a lot more hands that you are in big trouble against than hands you are 6/4 against or racing with. Typically against most of the range you are 3/1 or 5/2 worst case 12/1. Can't really justify a call then not getting at the very least 2/1 on your money.

yep, thank you

I think a slightly clearer decision making process weighting his range towards the monsters was required. Half way through that process I'd shoved my chips in!

[77dave]

Does this mean my fold equity will increase for the future next time will  you pass against me or will you call allin ?

[TightEnd]

Does this mean my fold equity will increase for the future next time i pass against you or will you call allin?

Knowing me I will probably out think myself contriving some ridiculous "he knows that I know that he knows that I know but he doesn't know oh bollocks" type of scenario that will propel you on your way to another win!

Well done again last night

[AlexMartin]

Its 77, i call. Heartbeat.

[I, Zimbra]

The question I'm asking myself here, is has 77dave seen you raise UTG and then pass to a reraise? In other words, what does he reckon his chances are of representing a monster (that he doesn't have) and pushing you off the hand?

If you're tight yet enough of a caller that you will call reraises most every time you raise UTG, and he has seen this, then he can't reasonably be pushing with anything he doesn't want called.

Generally, if I see a tight player raise in early position and I have something premium like AA or KK, I am more likely to push with it than try something trappy because I expect the tight player NOT to pass, having raised under the gun.