early stt turbo - AJ

[temp0r]

SHOULD I BETTING SO HARD AFTER BEING CALLED ON THE FLOP?!?!

PokerStars Game #9696229917: Tournament #49207029, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/05/01 - 09:24:15 (ET)
Table '49207029 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: BDawg08 (1440 in chips)
Seat 2: niqlas (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: crazycard (1220 in chips)
Seat 4: neestle (1450 in chips)
Seat 5: H_Vex (1560 in chips)
Seat 6: ShePoke (1750 in chips)
Seat 7: anaconda1234 (1590 in chips)
Seat 8: Philipp01 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: temp0r2k (1500 in chips)
anaconda1234: posts small blind 10
Philipp01: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to temp0r2k [As ]
temp0r2k: calls 20
BDawg08: folds
niqlas: folds
crazycard: folds
neestle: folds
H_Vex: folds
ShePoke: folds
anaconda1234: raises 40 to 60
Philipp01: calls 40
temp0r2k: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [ ]
anaconda1234: checks
Philipp01: checks
temp0r2k: bets 200
anaconda1234: folds
Philipp01: calls 200
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Philipp01: checks
temp0r2k: bets 400
Philipp01: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Philipp01: bets 200
temp0r2k: folds
Philipp01 collected 1380 from pot
Philipp01: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1380 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: BDawg08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: niqlas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: crazycard folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: neestle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: H_Vex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ShePoke (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: anaconda1234 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Philipp01 (big blind) collected (1380)
Seat 9: temp0r2k folded on the River

[I, Zimbra]

Flops like 9-T-J with a flush draw don't really encourage me to bet the A-J on level one. You can lose a lot of chips if someone has K-Q, you can lose a lot of chips if someone has Q-x and wants to chase (and hits), you can lose a lot of chips if someone has T-J or 9-J (standard), you can lose a lot of chips if someone has and chases, you can chop/lose if someone has -J and freerolls for runner runner, you can lose a lot of chips if someone has K-K and plays it to the hilt.

Or you can win a very few chips if nobody has anything.

Once in a while someone will pay you off with K-J (or similar), but even with TPTK, I don't like this flop.

[temp0r]

i didn't give him credit for a big hand given the fact he only called a small raise on his BB in position in what would be at most a 3 way pot. this is why i bet hard on the turn. i think KK/QQ was out of the question.

[I, Zimbra]

how about 8-8, 9-9 T-T, J-J, J-Q, J-9, J-T, K-Q, or A-x suited in diamonds?

The point is not just that you may already be behind on that flop, but that with that flop there are so many ways to get sucked out on.

If it's late on in a comp (e.g. STT L4 or 5) and there is enough in the middle to justify moving all-in on the flop then I'd probably do it.

But this is L1, there are 180 chips in the middle, you still have 1440 in your stack and even if your hand is good there sooooo many cards you don't want to hit on the next two streets: any king, queen, ten, nine, eight, seven or diamond is a potential disaster.