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« on: May 02, 2007, 10:11:35 AM »

Hi all,

here's a couple of diverse photos.

the first is (I think) a funicular railway, taken about 1890 & probably in the UK, any ideas where this may be?

the second is from a collection of photos from South America, is this an Alligator or a Crocodile? & is it possible to estimate how big it is?

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any help or ideas much appreciated. I'll be back online later today, I'm just out to to sign an agreement on a larger warehouse  scared
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 10:35:17 AM »

It's an alligator, and if those chains are standard 4ft "brothers" I would guess it's about 18ft long.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2007, 11:30:45 AM »

The first photo could possible be Bridgenorth in Shropshire - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgnorth_Cliff_Railway

That wikipedia link should give you something to go on. Are you 100% sure that it's in the UK and not from America where they also had funicular railways?
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2007, 01:19:50 PM »

It's an alligator, and if those chains are standard 4ft "brothers" I would guess it's about 18ft long.

thanks Red, I've never known the difference........never really had to. I guess 18ft is your standard Alligator?
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2007, 01:23:05 PM »

The first photo could possible be Bridgenorth in Shropshire - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgnorth_Cliff_Railway

That wikipedia link should give you something to go on. Are you 100% sure that it's in the UK and not from America where they also had funicular railways?

thanks dino, I can't be 100% sure its in the UK. Thanks for the link. It seems it'll be difficult to pinpoint the exact location of this railway
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2007, 01:33:24 PM »

ask tikay about the first one he took the pic
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2007, 01:39:37 PM »

It's an alligator, and if those chains are standard 4ft "brothers" I would guess it's about 18ft long.

thanks Red, I've never known the difference........never really had to. I guess 18ft is your standard Alligator?

Average is 13 feet. Largest ever was 19 feet.
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2007, 01:54:15 PM »

thanks Red, I've never known the difference........never really had to. I guess 18ft is your standard Alligator?

A good rule of thumb is that crocs are 'pointy' and gators ain't
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2007, 01:57:43 PM »

I beleive an area to investigate for the first photo may be Lynton/Lynmouth in North Devon...famously flooded severely in the 50s...a funicular links Lynmouth at the bottom of the hill to Lynton at the top and works to this day

I have a place near there in North Devon and it looks remarkably familiar.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2007, 02:08:38 PM »

thanks Red, I've never known the difference........never really had to. I guess 18ft is your standard Alligator?

A good rule of thumb is that crocs are 'pointy' and gators ain't

Another one is that when their mouths are closed you can see teeth with a croc, but not on an aligator. Doesn't help on this one though.

Although, if it is South America it'll be a Caiman, they don't have aligators or crocs down there AFAICR
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2007, 02:09:17 PM »

http://www.funimag.com/Funimag-Links-Europe.php

Gives all details of funicular tracks in Europe including the UK at the bottom and tighties find.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2007, 07:12:44 PM »

It looks like a monorail funicular similar to the one that used to be at mt vesuvius

http://www.kahunna.net/q&a02a.shtml

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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2007, 07:47:30 PM »

I beleive an area to investigate for the first photo may be Lynton/Lynmouth in North Devon...famously flooded severely in the 50s...a funicular links Lynmouth at the bottom of the hill to Lynton at the top and works to this day

I have a place near there in North Devon and it looks remarkably familiar.

Brunel built an atmospheric railway in Cornwall, one of his only failures, but not to be confused with a funicular Rilway.
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2007, 07:53:34 PM »

It's an alligator, and if those chains are standard 4ft "brothers" I would guess it's about 18ft long.

Where did the expression "a set of brothers" (meaning chain slings) emenate from Tom? I well remember using "brothers".
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2007, 08:08:56 PM »

It's an alligator, and if those chains are standard 4ft "brothers" I would guess it's about 18ft long.

Where did the expression "a set of brothers" (meaning chain slings) emenate from Tom? I well remember using "brothers".

I really don't know, anyone who uses lifting equipment calls them that though.

Perhaps it's something to do with them being connected and working together?
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