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AlexMartin
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« on: May 02, 2007, 10:35:23 AM »

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$1/$2 NL. Stack sizes range from $100 to $1200 (i know, guy was on a roll). Im on $300.
For example. Holding QQ last night, i raised preflop to $10 to play from the BB with 3 limpers. 2 players call and there are 3 of us to the flop. Flop is ugly as sin.      . I bet 20 into $30. Second player raises to $50. Third player calls. I used to keep playing this. I auto-muck now.


eg.2. I raise to $8 preflop and get 4 callers with KK. Flop comes 997. 1st player to act bets, 1 player calls. I muck now. 


Is auto-mucking overpairs to multiway flop aggression a key part of losing less? Smartmoney's response eagerly anticipated.




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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 11:20:55 AM »

I think it is yes.

MOST of the time you will now be behind.

At that level, let the "other" guy with the overpair pay YOU off when u hit the flop big.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2007, 10:38:02 AM »

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$1/$2 NL. Stack sizes range from $100 to $1200 (i know, guy was on a roll). Im on $300.
For example. Holding QQ last night, i raised preflop to $10 to play from the BB with 3 limpers. 2 players call and there are 3 of us to the flop. Flop is ugly as sin.      . I bet 20 into $30. Second player raises to $50. Third player calls. I used to keep playing this. I auto-muck now.


eg.2. I raise to $8 preflop and get 4 callers with KK. Flop comes 997. 1st player to act bets, 1 player calls. I muck now. 


Is auto-mucking overpairs to multiway flop aggression a key part of losing less? Smartmoney's response eagerly anticipated.



I am honoured Alex. Smiley

Firstly, all my suggestions are based on full-handed games, which is all that I play. Also, because I play 12x tables at a time, I basically stick to a "formula" that pays very well, however it may not always be optimal if you were only playing one or two tables where you will obviously be in a position to study your opponents closer. Generally though, I play fairly passively with hands that aren't monsters (and AA/KK/QQ post-flop are not monsters) and very aggressively with very strong hands.

I'm never looking to win big pots with high pairs that don't improve when I am the pre-flop aggressor, and I'm happy to take the pot down pre-flop or on the flop. (If I'm slow-playing AA against a tight opponent's aggression pre-flop, then that's a little different.)


First example: Absolutely, 100% fold. The times you are behind will far outway the times you are ahead. It's also important to remember that even when you are ahead, you're unlikely to be a big favourite anyway. Add in the fact that you are out of position, and there really is no decision to be made.

Second example: This isn't an automatic fold because it depends on the size on your opponent's flop bet and the fact that you have position. I may raise here to see how they act, and then check behind on turn and then see how they act again on river. Alternatively I may just call, and min raise a turn bet if it's not too large, and then check behind on river.

In general though to answer your question: "Is auto-mucking overpairs to multiway flop aggression a key part of losing less?"

Yes!


(One exception: If your opponent is fairly short-stacked, and as long as you charged him a significant %age of his stack to call pre-flop then I rarely fold. He's already paid over the odds without receiving the necessary implied odds to hit.)
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