Couple of KK hands from Tallinn tourney

[doubleup]

Hand 1 first level blinds 25/50 stacks 10k

EP player who is quite loose raises to 200, I make it 600, LP (weak tight) calls after a short pause and EP calls.  I think LP has QQ (he later says JJ) but not sure what EP has.

Flop T74 rainbow.

EP checks.  I check because I'm pretty certain that LP will bet for me.  Comments?

LP bets 1500 - EP makes it 4500

back to me? 


Hand 2 binds 100/200 ante 25  I have 8500 and am covered by the other player in the hand.

EP limp very loose player raises to 1500,  I have KK on the button and make it 3500.  very loose calls after a bit of "thought".

Flop is AJ4 rainbow.  checked to you?

[AlexMartin]

Fold

Check reluctantly.

[Horneris]

Hand 1 - Fold Reluctantly

Hand 2 - Bet, representing AK, AQ, hopefully take the pot down. If you check you might aswell say, bet the turn mate, and take the pot away from me. Alternatively, you could check/raise the turn, but thats probably being too clever.

[AlexMartin]

Hand 1 - Fold Reluctantly

Hand 2 - Bet, representing AK, AQ, hopefully take the pot down. If you check you might aswell say, bet the turn mate, and take the pot away from me. Alternatively, you could check/raise the turn, but thats probably being too clever.

He has called a re-raise and you only have 5000 left.  I put him on AK/AQ You cant fold to a re-raise so are you just shoving here? Check calling is better imo. You get the money from a bluff aswell as the hands you are losing to anyhow. Betting just means the hands that are beating you call.
Fuck i hate holding kings when an ace flops.

[johnbhoy76]

Hand 1 - Fold Reluctantly

Hand 2 - Bet, representing AK, AQ, hopefully take the pot down. If you check you might aswell say, bet the turn mate, and take the pot away from me. Alternatively, you could check/raise the turn, but thats probably being too clever.

I think hand 2 is the reluctant fold to be honest.

I think in hand 1 his KK is good given the betting that's gone on. The guy in late position has probably taken a stab at it (that's why you play in position afterall and two players have checked to him so he might aswell have a pop at it)

The guy in early posiition could easily have top pair and was hoping someone would bet for him which is what has happened and he now wants to end the hand right now. I think if he had a set he would check-call rather than check raise.

I think your KK is good to go here.  ALL IN!!!

[doubleup]

1st hand I had to fold after a bit of thought.  My plan to trap the LP player who I could put on a hand had worked but I was faced with the reraise from the loose player that I couldn't call.  (He showed a set of tens)

2nd hand I pushed and got called by ATo....

I pushed because I felt that not to bet or weakly bet would be conceding the pot.  I am pretty sure the only way to play this kind of situation is to check and try to assess if the bet that will follow on the turn is a bluff or not.