APAT: I just don't get it

[Ironside]

is chilli coming?

[Colchester Kev]

is chilli coming?

too easy, resist resist resist ...

[ericstoner]

I agree with everything Flying Pig says, The Apat forms a large part of my HOBBY
that is playing poker.

As its a hobby,and i'm not relient on makng a score each time I play ,the social side of the event comes to the fore,and like most entrants, i'll go all over to play in these wellstructured events.

And enjoy the poker as part of an occasional weekend away, whare I can meet up with old friends, and make ne ones.

[Sheriff Fatman]

Just about sums it up for me.  The weekends have the feel of a blonde bash about them.

Chuck in an added value comp and a chance to visit different casinos once in a while and its an easy decision to try and play them.

I have a full time job and the chance to play a decent structured live comp at a weekend is a rare one indeed.  The alternative would be to stump up £1000+ for a festival main event.

[ThinkerJE]

I totally agree with Jimmy & Brendon.

APAT events are for amateurs and I cannot think of a better way to spend a weekend than playing poker in great venues, with a fantastic structure and tremendous added value.  I don't have to make a profit from the weekend (good job really!!!), and so the costs of travel, hotels etc are not that important to me.  I am in the position where I am able to enjoy Poker (my major hobby) as I wish.

But the main reason why I am so keen to travel to APAT events is the people and the atmosphere.  The events are so well run, the people are so friendly, I have met many new friends through APAT and look forward to catching up at the live events.  Without being there to experience this it is difficult to describe in words what APAT is about.  I really feel part of something special, I feel part of a family of poker playing lovers who play the game in great spirit and with lots of skill.

Bring on Dublin, cannot wait, see you all at the fitzwilliam.

[technolog]

I feel part of a family of poker playing lovers

This is just so wrong and probably illegal! 

[kinboshi]

I keep going to them to see if I can get that beer from Des...

[Ironside]

lay off des being tight he bought a whole round back in 1998 when he was the only person in the bar

[RichD]

Now before anybody gets defensive I am merely posting this to find out why so many people are so enthusiastic to play in the APAT events considering the costs involved in attending in relation to the size of the entry fee. I appreciate they are good structured, deepstacked events that many players would not normally get the opportunity to play in but for me it ends there. The costs many people are going to, to play in a £75 f/o comp which has such a top heavy prize structure, and thats without consideration to the added Poker Stars entry prize into whatever tournament, just doesn't make any sense to me. Granted it's a fun social event but I can get that in many other games. How much will it cost to play APAT Ireland, a mere fortune. So why are so many people SO keen to play. I know Ireland is a great place and I love Dublin (one of my favourite cities) but if I was to spend so much money and time to travel there (hotels/flights/etc) I would certainly prefer to have a few nights out in Ireland rather than play a £75 f/o comp and sit in a casino.

Are there not comps available to players that would be a faction of the cost (in terms of expenses), of attending APAT Ireland and which also offer a far more favourable, flatter structure. I'm not knocking APA or APAT and I would play one of their events but only if it didn't mean I had to spend hundreds in expenses for the privilege. For me I looking for better value. 

So why are so many people willing to pay hundreds in expenses for a £75 f/o . And it's not just one off events unlike the occassional blonde bash, it's a series of them. Entry fees spent over the APAT season maybe a few hundred, I dread to think what the expenses are.

No doubt by just asking the question the

I can see why some people may think this, I mean yeah the expenses for travelling etc do outweigh the actual buy-in for the event.. but its a great added value thanks to the packages Star's have added, especially the PCA one that has several people competing for points! Plus they are great fun... personally I dont play for money, I play because I enjoy it and losing £75 isnt the end of the world, which helps in being able to relax and just enjoy playing a LOT of poker.

Plus if you Satellite in... for £10... you get a few expenses paid for with the prize money!

Anyway its just a great excuse to travel somewhere for the weekend, play some cards and have a few drinks. What else is life for?

[RioRodent]

  

[Horneris]

I agree, the APAT sounds crap + expensive.

























Well, it dosent, im just bitter coz i didnt get in, and Jones + Kin did.

Sounds really good + dont think it would be that expensive, £30 a night a decent hostel or summat for 2 nights, flights on ryanair are like £40 and obv drinking money. COuld probs squeeze by with £250/£300 for a great weekend. + if Kinboshi can win it, anyone can.

Prize structure could probs be better tho.

[Rod Paradise]

My only problem with it is the structure - I can't reach agreement with an organisation representing the lower limit/amateur player going to the casinos and playing a steeper structure than the overly steep structures that have been moaned about on repeated threads on blonde.

I like a lot of what APAT stands for and a lot of the guys/girls who play on it and run it, but I can't get past the making ridiculously top heavy structures look acceptable, so while I wish it well I can't join.

[kinboshi]

I like a lot of what APAT stands for and a lot the guys/girls who play on it, but I can't get past the making ridiculously top heavy structures look acceptable, so while I wish it well I can't join.

Good.  You'd only outdraw me...

[Rod Paradise]

I like a lot of what APAT stands for and a lot the guys/girls who play on it, but I can't get past the making ridiculously top heavy structures look acceptable, so while I wish it well I can't join.

Good.  You'd only outdraw me...

GFY - you'd have won the quiz if Laz's missus hadn't showed up though.

[Teacake]

My only problem with it is the structure - I can't reach agreement with an organisation representing the lower limit/amateur player going to the casinos and playing a steeper structure than the overly steep structures that have been moaned about on repeated threads on blonde.

I like a lot of what APAT stands for and a lot the guys/girls who play on it, but I can't get past the making ridiculously top heavy structures look acceptable, so while I wish it well I can't join.

The payout structure isnt that bad, they pay the top 10%, 1st got 30% & 2nd 18% in Edinburgh.

At the risk of making this a 40 pager, what do you suggest?