where am i going wrong

[Ironside]

first hand i limp with 89o i dont mind the unsuitedness as i aint going to get involved with a baby flush
i flop 2 pair and from the board and the betting i put people on draws and maybe TPWK
i let them know i am winning at this stage is slow playing a big hand then so be it
obviously i get 2 all in callers and they make there straight on river
fine i still have chips

see below for hand thinking


PokerStars Game #9967404460: Tournament #50007949, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/05/17 - 19:53:24 (ET)
Table '50007949 118' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: mebethy (4185 in chips)
Seat 2: ballans (850 in chips)
Seat 3: rickshawjack (8000 in chips)
Seat 4: eddy530747 (1830 in chips)
Seat 5: Ironside (5780 in chips)
Seat 6: dorinn (7715 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: bluemoon-123 (6260 in chips)
Seat 8: Hunter_57 (845 in chips)
Seat 9: takeash1t (1370 in chips)
Hunter_57: posts small blind 50
takeash1t: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ ]
mebethy: calls 100
ballans: folds
rickshawjack: folds
eddy530747: calls 100
Ironside: calls 100
dorinn: folds
bluemoon-123: calls 100
Hunter_57: folds
takeash1t: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
takeash1t: bets 200
mebethy: calls 200
eddy530747: calls 200
Ironside: raises 2600 to 2800
bluemoon-123: folds
takeash1t: calls 1070 and is all-in
mebethy: folds
mebethy is sitting out
eddy530747: calls 1530 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ]

*** SHOW DOWN *** eddy530747: shows [ ] (a straight, Eight to Queen) Ironside: shows [ ] (two pair, Nines and Eights) eddy530747 collected 920 from side pot takeash1t: shows [ ] (a straight, Six to Ten) eddy530747 collected 4560 from main pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5480 Main pot 4560. Side pot 920. | Rake 0 Board [ ] Seat 1: mebethy folded on the Flop Seat 2: ballans folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: rickshawjack folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: eddy530747 showed [ ] and won (5480) with a straight, Eight to Queen Seat 5: Ironside showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights Seat 6: dorinn folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: bluemoon-123 (button) folded on the Flop Seat 8: Hunter_57 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: takeash1t (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with a straight, Six to Ten i am now in bb and i get 2 limpers and the SB completes there is only 400 in the pot and my TT looks like its flop a set or ditch but i have anotehr option its very likely my hand is ahead just now the table isnt the sort for slow playing big pairs now if i put in a raise that doesnt commit me to the pot they will all call so i decided to just steal the pot with an all in raise after all what can they call me with KQ? PokerStars Game #9967470319: Tournament #50007949, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/05/17 - 19:57:25 (ET) Table '50007949 118' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: mebethy (3835 in chips) is sitting out Seat 2: ballans (2200 in chips) Seat 3: rickshawjack (7600 in chips) Seat 4: eddy530747 (6275 in chips) Seat 5: Ironside (3950 in chips) Seat 6: dorinn (7715 in chips) is sitting out Seat 7: bluemoon-123 (5260 in chips) Seat 9: arivera767 (2420 in chips) eddy530747: posts small blind 50 Ironside: posts big blind 100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [ ] dorinn: folds bluemoon-123: calls 100 arivera767: folds mebethy: folds ballans: calls 100 rickshawjack: folds eddy530747: calls 50 Ironside: raises 3850 to 3950 and is all-in bluemoon-123: folds ballans: folds eddy530747: calls 3850 *** FLOP *** [ ] *** TURN *** [ ] [] *** RIVER *** [ ] [] Ironside said, "as if he knew" *** SHOW DOWN *** eddy530747: shows [ ] (two pair, Queens and Jacks) Ironside: shows [ ] (two pair, Jacks and Tens) Diogenes69 is connected eddy530747 collected 8100 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 8100 | Rake 0 Board [ ] Seat 1: mebethy folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ballans folded before Flop Seat 3: rickshawjack (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: eddy530747 (small blind) showed [ ] and won (8100) with two pair, Queens and Jacks Seat 5: Ironside (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens Seat 6: dorinn folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: bluemoon-123 folded before Flop Seat 9: arivera767 folded before Flop (didn't be is my thinking way off base or am i just running colder than a nudist luge rider?

[Horneris]

1) obv you played this well. And got stupidly outdrawn by the AJ. The 6 7 probably wasnt too bad. I guess youll get ridic calls from people like that in $1 tourns sometimes though.

2) Suprised you pushed with 10s for 3.8k with blinds at 50/100 and only 300 in the pot. I dont hate your play but i prefer a raise to 4 or 500, then a re-evaluation on your flop action if you receive a caller. And in this instance, when hes seen his 3 cards with the KQ, you can get away. Still a bad call by him, but to be fair again, its a $1 tourn. Youre gona get a lot of Donks.

Unluckyyyy.

[Ironside]

problem was is i raised to 1k i would of still gotten 3 callers and there isnt many flops your going to like against 3 callers with TT

i also knew i was ahead at the time and those 400 chips were better off in my stack than anyone elses

i really need to go back to basics with my NLHE though i am still playing other games well but for somereason the game i learnt first has gone to pieces
i am even making money in the PLHE cash games while losing in the NLHE cash games

[temp0r]

to win at such tiny level tourneys you have to adapt your stratergy big time to deal with the retardedness. to be honest. i think it's damaging to your game overall doing this and may well hold you back in the long run.

[doubleup]

Iron - just dont ever limp with 89o..... even after multiple limpers, there just arent enough ways to get lucky.

[Graham C]

"first hand i limp with 89o i don't mind the unsuitedness as i aint going to get involved with a baby flush"

What are you hoping to achieve with 89 off suit?   Saying that, you got damn unlucky with eddy530747 hitting his straight - I'm not sure why he was calling.


I read somewhere about playing Jacks recently, it may have been on here, anyway the point was that Jacks is only a pair of tens plus one.  I'd be very reluctant to push all my chips in with tens preflop at this stage, you are sitting fairly comfortable and don't have to risk it all on a medium pair.   I think a raise would have looked better, to many people seem to push with small pairs these days.

[boldie]

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  I think a raise would have looked better, to many people seem to push with small pairs these days.

Exactly...you told everybody at that table you probably had a small/medium pair or didn't want limpers on your BB..that's why the call with KQ happens. Ofcourse you also have to take into account that at the 1$ level KQ is regarded as a monster by some players...which is exactly why you shouldn't push with TT. If you play at the 1$ level you have to take into account the sort of players you are playing and generally you have to play a tighter game. Limp with the tens and hope to hit a set and that they hit top pair..that will give you all their chips not racing for all your chips with a medium pair