More WSOP Shenanigans

[tikay]

Are there people who actively avoid the WSOP rather than put up with that kind of nonsense (as well as the double stacks/couble structure scam)?

I'll be there for a few weeks, & I'm somewhere between undecided & unlikely to play a WSOP Event.

But I'm quite clear on one thing - I ain't gonna play WSOP Poker in a sweltering, humid, tent.

But I guess they'll manage very nicely without me.

Sweltering and humid tent its not, its so air conditioned and cold, that I had to buy a sweatshirt cos it was freezing.

Everybody was complaining it was too cold

Claerly not everyone agrees - see "forced to play WSOP in a 100 degree Tent", where the evidence seems fairly damning.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10803779&an=0&page=0#Post10803779

[phatomch]

cheers dino, sorry I did not reply earlier been at work

[maxward]

I posted this in the blondpedia  thread in response to a post by Tikay (in response to a post by Flushy) about WSOP double starting stacks this year. Somehow it seems to fit here better:

There's a excel spreadsheet called Poker Tournament Formula developed by Arnold Snyder, called Poker Tournament Formula PAtience Factor - you put in the blind structure, level length and starting stack and it gives you a number on how long it will take you to blind off if you don't play a hand (above 10 is good, GUKPT = 49.81, Stars Million = 14.48, turbo sng 1.45)

So I ran some numbers for the $1500 WSOP Events in 2006 and 2007 (purely as i'm playing the last one this year and was intrigued)

A $1500 event last year (starting chips 1500, blinds 25-25, 25-50, 50-100, 100-200, one hour levels) has a patience factor of 14.06 - blind off time 3.75hrs

A $1500 event this year (starting chips 3000, blinds 25-50, 50-100, 100-200, 100-200/25) has a patience factor of 14.93, blind off time 3.86hrs.

However the real bite, apparently, is coming at the FT with them lasting approx half the time (did someone post this on blonde from 2+2 or do i read too many fourms?)

FWIW if you put the structre for the Venetian DeepStack's $330 thru the tournament formula gizmo (40 minute levels, 6000 chips, 25-50, 50-100, 100-200, 100-200/25 etc) it's patience factor is 14.79.

Now considering the Venentian's $1000 deepstacks (and $500?) give you 10,000 chips and one hour levels it's not hard to see why many players are heading there.

Sounds a good tool, do you have a link?

Interesting to see how the APAT structure compares both live and online

[Dingdell]

This temperature thing happens over here. We left Southend River card room a few weeks ago wrung out to dry as the air cond wasn't working and it was extremely hot. Bern has a heart condition and it wasn't good as his blood pressure was way too high due to the temp.

On sat we played at Gutshot - i was in tourney so Ok - the cash games downstairs was like a sweat box.I went down there to collect  my winings and couldn't believe the temp or conditions. If the players had been pets the RSPCA would have closed the place down and prosecuted.

I'm sure there is nothing to protect the players but surely there must be health and safety issues for staff both here and at WSOP?