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« on: June 22, 2007, 09:20:43 AM »

The blonde Virgin Team Challenge

blonde poker and Virgin Poker are delighted to announce details of the blonde Virgin Team Challenge, beginning in July and running through October. The way the Challenge works is detailed below. Teams of blonde members compete in a league and a member of the winning team gets to play in a major live event courtesy of Virgin Poker, with his/her team-mates sharing in their success.  So get those teams together, and good luck!

Schedule of Events:

Round   Date                              Buy-In   Poker Room
1   Tuesday 3rd July @ 8pm BST   $5.50   blonde
2   Thursday 5th July @ 8pm BST  $5.50   Virgin
3   Tuesday 10th July @ 8pm BST $5.50   blonde
4   Thursday 12th July @ 8pm BST $5.50   Virgin
5   Tuesday 17th July @ 8pm BST  $5.50   blonde
6   Thursday 19th July @ 8pm BST $5.50   Virgin
7   Tuesday 24th July @ 8pm BST  $5.50   blonde
8   Thursday 26th July @ 8pm BST $5.50   Virgin
9   Tuesday 31st July @ 8pm BST  $5.50   blonde


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Every round, on both sites, will be password protected, password will be available on the day of each competition.

How To Play:

1. Have a blonde Poker and Virgin Poker account.  Sign up for Virgin Poker via the banner on the main site or this sign up link:

http://travis.bosscasinos.com/re.asp?name=POK&camp=bp2007&go=http://www.virginpoker.com


blonde members with existing Virgin Poker accounts can of course use those to participate, but new sign ups must be through this link.

2. Form a team with your mates (min 3, max 5) and enter by posting your Team Details in the linked thread below:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=24909.0


Team Name:   
     
   blonde Screen Name   Virgin Screen Name
Player 1     
Player 2     
Player 3     
Player 4     
Player 5     


3. Play in each round of the Team Championship and the top 3 finishers of each team in each round will have their points contribute towards the team’s score for that round.
4. The points won by each team in each round will contribute to their league position.

Points Scoring

1. Points don’t win prizes, lack of points do! You are awarded the same number of points as your finishing position – i.e. 1st place gets 1 point, 24th gets 24.
2. The lowest three points scorers from each team in each round are counted towards the team score – i.e. if a team has it’s players finishing in 5th, 12th, 23rd, 52nd + 78th then that team will be awarded 30 points (5 + 12 + 23) for that round.
3. Any players not participating in a round will be awarded points equal to the total number of players in that round plus 10.
4. At the end of the month the team with the least points wins.


The Prizes


1. Virgin Poker have put up a blonde Live Tournament Fund of £5000. Each month the winning team will win a live event seat. In July the seat up for grabs will be a £1050 seat at the Luton GUKPT in early August, with £100 added for expenses.
2. The best performing player from the winning team (who has accumulated the least points) will play in the live event and any winnings that player makes are spread across the team in the following order.

Team Players Ranking   Prize
1: Least Points Over Month   Live Seat + 50% of any Winnings
2   20% of any Winnings
3   15% of any Winnings
4   10% of any Winnings
5: Most Points Over Month   5% of any Winnings

League Table will be published after each competition.

Terms & Conditions

1. blonde Poker and Virgin Poker realize that team competition offers the possibility of team members colluding together. As this competition is open only to blonde Forum members we hope that it will be played within the good spirit and intentions that we are used to on the forum. Any teams suspected of colluding will be disqualified from the league for that month.
2. Teams must enter by posting their Team name and members on the blonde Forum. Teams will only score points for a round if they have posted their team name and players on the forum before that round begins.
3. Team with less than 5 players can add new players to their team at any point in the month by posting their new team line-up. A player will only score points for a team once he has been officially registered with them.
4. Players cannot be a member of more than one team in any one month.
5. By participating in this league any player winning the live seat is agreeing to share any winnings they make from that event with the rest of their team as dictated by the tournament.
6. This is a joint promotion between Virgin Poker and blonde Poker.
7. The prize includes £100 towards travel to or from the live event; or accommodation, arrangements are the sole responsibility of the player.
8. The minimum age limit for the tournament is 18.
9. In the event of a service crash or a disruption, the promotion for that day will be rerun at the discretion of Virgin/blonde Poker. Virgin/blonde Poker will be the sole arbiter as to whether a promotion will be rerun.
10 Virgin/blonde Poker accepts no responsibility whatsoever for system or connection problems that might affect any player during any of these promotions, such as a fold / timeout.
11. The promoter reserves the right to refuse this offer to any player or to withdraw this / or part of this offer / promotion at any time. The Promoter cannot be held responsible for any 'fold / timeouts' or disconnects as per the general rules of the Virgin/blonde Poker service. If the game is disrupted by system or network issues Virgin/blonde Poker reserves the right to resolve the issue as it sees fit.
12. Virgin/blonde Poker reserves the right to amend the tournament rules at any time.
13. Virgin/blonde Poker Tournament rules apply.
14. Places are not transferable, there is no cash alternative.
15. In the event of event cancellation or buy-in unavailability, cash equivalent will be awarded.
16. By participating in the tournament you agree to reasonable publicity, including betting markets around the event and television media interviews and press releases. Event reports will also feature the name and alias of the winners.
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2007, 09:23:53 AM »

Good work fellas thumbs up

Sounds very interesting.  Wonder if anyone will have me in their team...
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 09:27:31 AM »

Wondering the same Cheesy

My C.V. isn't that long, although I am currently top of the blonde leaderboard  Cheesy

Like the idea of this, another good job from blonde Smiley

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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2007, 09:30:01 AM »

see second thread for team formation!

feedback on this idea/concept/promotion welcome.
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2007, 09:34:49 AM »

I'm glad you have specified how the person for the live event will be chosen, I expect everyone in the team will want to play it and it does seem a bit harsh not getting a go if you contribute, but it's fair enough that the top point scorer gets in.   I think the only downside is that it could be possible to play for a winning team each month and not actually get anything out of it.

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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2007, 09:37:47 AM »

I'm glad you have specified how the person for the live event will be chosen, I expect everyone in the team will want to play it and it does seem a bit harsh not getting a go if you contribute, but it's fair enough that the top point scorer gets in.   I think the only downside is that it could be possible to play for a winning team each month and not actually get anything out of it.



It's not that bad:

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By participating in this league any player winning the live seat is agreeing to share any winnings they make from that event with the rest of their team as dictated by the tournament.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2007, 09:45:35 AM »

Yeah I've just realised that, if when they I win £80k it's worth it Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2007, 09:46:22 AM »

1. blonde Poker and Virgin Poker realize that team competition offers the possibility of team members colluding together. As this competition is open only to blonde Forum members we hope that it will be played within the good spirit and intentions that we are used to on the forum. Any teams suspected of colluding will be disqualified from the league for that month.

It's a team event - the finishing position of your teammates directly affects whether you win the prize. Surely not colluding goes against the spirit of a team event?

If I'm a big chip leader and get AA, and my average stacked teammate goes all-in, following Rule 1 would mean I'd have to willingly hurt my team's chances of winning. Is that fair on the other members of my team?

Other questions.

Obviously this thing is on every Tuesday and Thursday at the height of summer. Am I right in reading it that there is no penalty to a team provided three of their players play in each tourney? (ie two players from a team can sit out without the team being penalised).

How does the winning % break down if the team has under 5 players? Or can they sort that out themselves?

I assume colluding is OK provided it's to stop Team Chorlton from winning?
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2007, 10:16:58 AM »

1. blonde Poker and Virgin Poker realize that team competition offers the possibility of team members colluding together. As this competition is open only to blonde Forum members we hope that it will be played within the good spirit and intentions that we are used to on the forum. Any teams suspected of colluding will be disqualified from the league for that month.

It's a team event - the finishing position of your teammates directly affects whether you win the prize. Surely not colluding goes against the spirit of a team event?

If I'm a big chip leader and get AA, and my average stacked teammate goes all-in, following Rule 1 would mean I'd have to willingly hurt my team's chances of winning. Is that fair on the other members of my team?

Other questions.

Obviously this thing is on every Tuesday and Thursday at the height of summer. Am I right in reading it that there is no penalty to a team provided three of their players play in each tourney? (ie two players from a team can sit out without the team being penalised).

How does the winning % break down if the team has under 5 players? Or can they sort that out themselves?

I assume colluding is OK provided it's to stop Team Chorlton from winning?

Obviously.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2007, 10:25:51 AM »

boo - just typed a long message and it got lost Sad

In summary - I like the idea in theory, but I'm not keen on the points scoring system, which, IMO, too heavily penalises those who are unable to play some of the games for whatever reason.  I would favour a top heavy scoring system (such as the one used in the blonde league), with zero points being awarded to players who are unable to take part.

With the system as it stands, there is potential for teams whose players do very in a number of event to lose simply because they couldn't commit to as many games as some other teams.

With it being a team event I, personally, (even though I would love to) don't think I could take part as things stand, as I know I will be away on some of the dates and unable to make a couple of others - I would not wish to ruin my team's chances.  A points system along the lines I have suggested would, in my opinion, encourage greater participation, which must be a good thing?

Oh, and Andrew and Kin - GFY Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2007, 10:31:08 AM »



It's a team event - the finishing position of your teammates directly affects whether you win the prize. Surely not colluding goes against the spirit of a team event?

If I'm a big chip leader and get AA, and my average stacked teammate goes all-in, following Rule 1 would mean I'd have to willingly hurt my team's chances of winning. Is that fair on the other members of my team?

Other questions.

Obviously this thing is on every Tuesday and Thursday at the height of summer. Am I right in reading it that there is no penalty to a team provided three of their players play in each tourney? (ie two players from a team can sit out without the team being penalised).

How does the winning % break down if the team has under 5 players? Or can they sort that out themselves?

I assume colluding is OK provided it's to stop Team Chorlton from winning?


the collusion point, yes Andrew I know where you are coming from and I grappled with the issue: eventually opting for an attempt to ask teams to play to win as individuals..if everyone plays to win then over the whole month everything will even out and the best teams will emerge from the most consistent individual performances.

no penalty is right

the league also runs each month til October, so perhaps holidays etc are less of a problem in Autumn

We will sort out a % breakdown for a team with under 5 players as and when required
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2007, 10:33:52 AM »

boo - just typed a long message and it got lost Sad

In summary - I like the idea in theory, but I'm not keen on the points scoring system, which, IMO, too heavily penalises those who are unable to play some of the games for whatever reason.  I would favour a top heavy scoring system (such as the one used in the blonde league), with zero points being awarded to players who are unable to take part.

With the system as it stands, there is potential for teams whose players do very in a number of event to lose simply because they couldn't commit to as many games as some other teams.

With it being a team event I, personally, (even though I would love to) don't think I could take part as things stand, as I know I will be away on some of the dates and unable to make a couple of others - I would not wish to ruin my team's chances.  A points system along the lines I have suggested would, in my opinion, encourage greater participation, which must be a good thing?

Oh, and Andrew and Kin - GFY Cheesy


It would be great if you could play Claw, but I understand about holidays etc. Perhaps it will suit you more after the Summer or you can just choose 4 team mates without a life..Matt? Scott?
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It's a team event - the finishing position of your teammates directly affects whether you win the prize. Surely not colluding goes against the spirit of a team event?

If I'm a big chip leader and get AA, and my average stacked teammate goes all-in, following Rule 1 would mean I'd have to willingly hurt my team's chances of winning. Is that fair on the other members of my team?

Other questions.

Obviously this thing is on every Tuesday and Thursday at the height of summer. Am I right in reading it that there is no penalty to a team provided three of their players play in each tourney? (ie two players from a team can sit out without the team being penalised).

How does the winning % break down if the team has under 5 players? Or can they sort that out themselves?

I assume colluding is OK provided it's to stop Team Chorlton from winning?


the collusion point, yes Andrew I know where you are coming from and I grappled with the issue: eventually opting for an attempt to ask teams to play to win as individuals..if everyone plays to win then over the whole month everything will even out and the best teams will emerge from the most consistent individual performances.

no penalty is right

the league also runs each month til October, so perhaps holidays etc are less of a problem in Autumn

We will sort out a % breakdown for a team with under 5 players as and when required

I'm not sure AndrewT's example is a case of collusion - its more a tactical decision and he'd be doing it without the knowledge of his teammate.

Its similar to the situations around the bubble where its theoretically correct to fold AA.

I'd class collusion as something where teammates are sharing information about hands during the course of an event and making decisions based on this.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2007, 10:46:45 AM »


to be honest, as it stands I don't think I could commit to any event of this type over this type of timescale, whatever the time of year.  I simply wouldn't be able to commit to all the games.  If it was an individual event, I would take my chances, but a team thing is a whole different kettle of fish (literally?).

Perhaps this is best left to those with no life! 

Best of luck with it though - it sounds great for those who are able to do it - and I'll be rooting for the rest of Team Chorlton if they enter 
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2007, 10:51:18 AM »

I'm not sure AndrewT's example is a case of collusion - its more a tactical decision and he'd be doing it without the knowledge of his teammate.

Its similar to the situations around the bubble where its theoretically correct to fold AA.

I'd class collusion as something where teammates are sharing information about hands during the course of an event and making decisions based on this.

Yeah, 'collusion' was the wrong word. 'Team play' would be better.

Something else to watch out for are false positives. I raise with a sub-standard hand to nick the blinds (I think I did it once two years ago and may try it again sometime). A teammate of mine pushes all-in behind me. I have to fold. 'Collusion!!' the cry goes up.
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