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« Reply #26280 on: February 15, 2012, 02:57:27 PM »

Queen works harder than anyone I know.

She instils a sense of national pride, earns us a fortune in tourism & merchandising, and helps to maintain Great Britain's place on the scale of global awareness.

Without the Monarchy, Great Britain would soon become just another European country.



   

There are 11 other monarchies in Europe.

The Queen has an estimated wealth of £300 million yet we pay everything for her despite being skint. Get rid.

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Don't be so daft, she is tremendous value for money and the returns both tangible and in profile exceed her cost annually many times over

Next you'll be wanting Scotland independent, or posting puerile anti Rangers pictures
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« Reply #26281 on: February 15, 2012, 02:57:42 PM »

Queen works harder than anyone I know.

She instils a sense of national pride, earns us a fortune in tourism & merchandising, and helps to maintain Great Britain's place on the scale of global awareness.

Without the Monarchy, Great Britain would soon become just another European country.



   

There are 11 other monarchies in Europe.

The Queen has an estimated wealth of £300 million yet we pay everything for her despite being skint. Get rid.

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She generates 3x that in revenue

Now I'm on your team, but I've never seen a shred of evidence to prove that.
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« Reply #26282 on: February 15, 2012, 03:06:56 PM »

I think the royal family are a massive benefit for the country bringing in £illions into the U.K economy year after year.

The amount of Business the Royals have generated over the last 60+ years is bigger than any other source.

Nothing works better than being entertained by the royal family win outside investment.   

Also tourism. Folk don't come here for the Sun.

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« Reply #26283 on: February 15, 2012, 03:09:31 PM »

Queen ftw I say.

I've always been a huge Freddie Mercury fan too.
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« Reply #26284 on: February 15, 2012, 03:25:29 PM »

The amount of Business the Royals have generated over the last 60+ years is bigger than any other source.


Bigger than the City?
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« Reply #26285 on: February 15, 2012, 03:37:41 PM »

The amount of Business the Royals have generated over the last 60+ years is bigger than any other source.


Bigger than the City?


Why do you think the "City" became the City?


Regards

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« Reply #26286 on: February 15, 2012, 03:38:00 PM »

It's always a great way of highlighting the north-south divide this question.

Personally as north leaning midlander, I don't think it's morally acceptable to a) have our rulers forced upon us based on who they are related to or b) spend a large sum of money keeping a small number of people in unimaginable luxury.

It doesn't matter to me how cheap it is per person. It also doesn't matter to me if I think the Queen is doing a good job of it currently.

I think the tourism aspect is totally overrated- even if you think it is OK to use our system of government as some sort of theme park, there are plenty of tourists at ex-royal palaces in France. In fact there are more visitors, since the flow of tourists are not interrupted by the residents wanting to use the place.

A couple of vids, one pro-monarchy, and a reply video that is anti.





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« Reply #26287 on: February 15, 2012, 03:39:48 PM »

So our friend Jeremy Lin was in action tonight, playing away for the New York Knicks at Toronto. The Knicks had one of their stars back - must be weird for them, since they've been out a week, the whole team has changed, won every game and this new guy Lin who earns 1/20th of their salary is the main man - and they started really badly.

They were 17 points behind early on and still 12 down going into the final quarter. I thought the Jeremy Lin story was drawing to a close, the oppo had obviously done some research on him, guarded him much tighter and hammered him with some really rough fouls. Then the final five minutes...

The Knicks upped their defensive intensity and Lin started to get the offence going and they edged closer point by point. With under a minute left the scores were tied. One of the big men missed his shot but grabbed the rebound and chucked it out to Lin. With under 24 seconds left now, he could hold for the final shot. The clock ticked down, inside 10 seconds, inside five, would he take the shot, look to set someone else up (the returning star man) or completely fk it up, remember he's never been in this position before.

With under two seconds left he dribbled forward then stepped back behind the three-point line and with 0.5 seconds left shot over the defender and swished the perfect shot to win the game for the Knicks. He ended up with 27 points and 11 assists I think, again massive numbers.

He's moved from sleeping on his brother's couch to an apartment on the 20th floor of Trump Towers....almost perfectly from outhouse to penthouse

Is "swished" a tecnical term in basketball?
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« Reply #26288 on: February 15, 2012, 03:45:02 PM »

So our friend Jeremy Lin was in action tonight, playing away for the New York Knicks at Toronto. The Knicks had one of their stars back - must be weird for them, since they've been out a week, the whole team has changed, won every game and this new guy Lin who earns 1/20th of their salary is the main man - and they started really badly.

They were 17 points behind early on and still 12 down going into the final quarter. I thought the Jeremy Lin story was drawing to a close, the oppo had obviously done some research on him, guarded him much tighter and hammered him with some really rough fouls. Then the final five minutes...

The Knicks upped their defensive intensity and Lin started to get the offence going and they edged closer point by point. With under a minute left the scores were tied. One of the big men missed his shot but grabbed the rebound and chucked it out to Lin. With under 24 seconds left now, he could hold for the final shot. The clock ticked down, inside 10 seconds, inside five, would he take the shot, look to set someone else up (the returning star man) or completely fk it up, remember he's never been in this position before.

With under two seconds left he dribbled forward then stepped back behind the three-point line and with 0.5 seconds left shot over the defender and swished the perfect shot to win the game for the Knicks. He ended up with 27 points and 11 assists I think, again massive numbers.

He's moved from sleeping on his brother's couch to an apartment on the 20th floor of Trump Towers....almost perfectly from outhouse to penthouse

Is "swished" a tecnical term in basketball?

Nothing but net baby.
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« Reply #26289 on: February 15, 2012, 03:52:50 PM »

Imo  the 'Royal family are good for tourism' argument is nonsense. The two countries that have the most tourist visitors per year are the USA and France, no royal families there. France has plenty of palace's, monuments and centuries old royal dwellings and site seeing sites and still gets more tourism than the UK. The fact they have not been used for years doesn't stop people going there to visit them, the same thing would happen in this country without the royal family. You don't think people go to see Buck palace coz they think they might see the queen do you?

They would still go and visit if it was an empty palace with loads of history to it, just like they do in France.
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« Reply #26290 on: February 15, 2012, 03:54:31 PM »

In fact in 2010 slightly more people visited the UK than visited Turkey. France had almost 48 million more tourist visitors that year than the UK.
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« Reply #26291 on: February 15, 2012, 04:03:15 PM »

The amount of Business the Royals have generated over the last 60+ years is bigger than any other source.


Bigger than the City?


Why do you think the "City" became the City?


Regards



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« Reply #26292 on: February 15, 2012, 04:05:23 PM »

The amount of Business the Royals have generated over the last 60+ years is bigger than any other source.


Bigger than the City?


Why do you think the "City" became the City?


Regards



At the risk of sidetracking the discussion away from your original claim, its origins were in Roman times, so that puts it a little ahead of the monachy.

The prominence in the World is probably a relic from the Empire.  I guess we could argue all day about the reasons for our promenence in the World at the times when the City became a world leading finanical centre, but I'd like to think it had more to do with our place at the forefront of the industrial revolution, and not due to the fact we had a monachy.  Of course industrial revolution sounds much better than early adopters of widespread slavery on a massive scale!
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« Reply #26293 on: February 15, 2012, 04:16:37 PM »

The monarchy is a good thing, because the alternative (an elected head of state who would just end up being some politician) is far worse.

Queenie is obv a legend, and the new couple are global superstars already. It's just Charles who is the problem - he's going to be such a downer.
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« Reply #26294 on: February 15, 2012, 04:40:49 PM »

I've always been a big queen fan. Yes, she is a tad pricey, like £40m a year and it's a little tilting when you see the younger royals splashing around getitng smashed on "our" tax dollars, but then I'd do exactly the same in there shoes so can't really blame them.

In the general scheme £40m is pretty much nothing, and I love that the queen is on all the note and coins, and the way she handles herself is extremely admirable, she is the head of 600 charities and I believe contray to popular delusion she doesn't sit around in her big palace getting pampered all day she is relentlessly attending a variety of events representing GB (you might not think this is worthwhile, but it is still work that she does)

also think of her life, she wants for nothing? I bet she wants for the chance to walk down the street, have a glass of wine with her girl mates, pick the bill up and walk home on a thursday evening, but she'll never have that. I just wanted to highlight these points as a balance for the opinion that we just pay some old women to live in luxury which really isn't exactly the case.

Queen ftw!
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