LIVE MTT (turbo hand - late stages)

[temp0r]

£50 deep and steep freezeout at gutshot last night. 12 players left from 66. 4 hours of play gone having clawed back into the tournament having had to lay down AA twice in the first two levels.
money starts at 9th. both tables playing 6.

blinds = 1500/3000
av. stack - 27.5k

FOLD
FOLD
FOLD
BUTTON - YOU - J8 os with 25k
SB - FISH - but still tight preflop. last time you pushed from the cut off he folded AQ from the SB. 15k
BB - TIGHT - folded JJ preflop a few hands ago. 17k

given the top heavy payout structure am i more or less entitled to play this similar to a SnG turbo and auto-shove in this spot? or should i remain tight until in the money like a regular mtt?

[temp0r]

oh and the blind levels go up every 15mins. it's 5mins until the 2k/4k level.

[AdamG]

*** button raises to 10k. ***

[Longy]

*** button raises to 10k. ***

Button does anything but this and call. Its a push or fold situation.

Given your reads im going to shove, you should shove looser in MTT's than Sng's because of the prize structure bubbling is less of an equity hit, compared to scooping the top couple of spots.

[AdamG]

10k is enough to put em all but all in...

[temp0r]

LOL @ raise to 10k.

please leave my thread!

[AdamG]

LOL @ raise to 10k.

please leave my thread!

why would that be lol ? no need to shove to get em off the hand and steal blinds because shoving is more prone to get a call in this situation .

[TheChipPrince]

Personnally i fold, I dont think the 4.5K gained will make that difference to your stack for the risk its worth...

[JungleCat03]

2 tight players in the blinds, pretty much on the bubble of the tournament.

You have massive fold equity here and those 4.5k chips are important to your stack, particularly with the blinds about to go up. Definitely raise. I would raise enough to put them both allin, because there is a psychological difference between calling off all your chips and only some of them which I think increases your fold equity slightly and you don't want to have to call even a smallish (7k) stop and go with J8 high when you miss.

If you get called try and make a straight.

[UpTheMariners]

Personnally i fold, I dont think the 4.5K gained will make that difference to your stack for the risk its worth...

Sorry but I disagree. I think increasing your stack by 18% will make a difference, therefore I push in this situation. 

[AgentChip109]

im leaning more towards shoving. if there tight like u mention, plus being around the bubble stage, players tend to tighten up even more. u r only gonna get called by a big hand from one of these 2 players and the chances are they wont have it.

have u been shoving a lot?? my only worry is if u have been shoving a lot they may be suspicious, but then they still need to find a hand to call wiv

[temp0r]

SB - has seen me shove on the flop with the action to me in a raised pot once. and also shoved his BB a couple of rounds ago and showed AQ.

BB - i don't think he's seen me play a hand yet.