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« on: July 31, 2007, 07:01:25 PM »

You are playing a 45 runner SNG and 7 places are paid

the structure is fast, 5 minute turbo blind increases

there are 9 left

blinds are 300-600 with a 25 ante

you have 9,300, 6th in chips the three shorter stacks have 5,000 ish and 8,000, you can raise into them the way the seat distribution has occurred

on your immediate right the chip leader with 21,000.

Each time it is folded to him he moves all in and so far he has not had to show a hand. He only came to your table as the final started.

The last two times it has come round to him in the SB he has done the same to you in the BB, with no hand you fold


prize money for 7th is 1.6x the buy in, rising to 12x for first, with money that would make the whole experience a useful exercise starting at 4th


What range of hands do you need to call all-in against this serial pusher?

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 07:32:22 PM »

88+/ AQ. Im not a fan of calling here.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 10:36:02 PM »

AJ+ / 99+

this is gonna look strange compared to the above post i know but it would take me a million years to explain why. its mathematical or something.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 10:50:54 PM »

Any 2
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 11:05:14 PM »

If he is literally opening 100% of hands i would say it is something like a10 66+, you are not on the bubble and this structure means that bubbling is not as significant as a 50/30/20. This is not the actual bubble either.

As an aside calling with pairs like 88 and 99 is superior to ak in this situation against atc as hand like 7 high are in real trouble against pair but not against ak.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2007, 11:06:25 PM »

23 + / 33 +

This is gonna look strange compared to the above post but that's because i'm being facetious.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2007, 11:11:59 PM »

23 + / 33 +

This is gonna look strange compared to the above post but that's because i'm being facetious.


 Grin thanks..I'll be first in line for the poker book!!
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2007, 11:39:07 PM »

Any ace, any pocket pair 7's and up.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2007, 11:06:54 AM »

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=19355.0

I had a very similar issue.  It's an interesting one. 

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2007, 05:45:54 PM »

Hmph ok seriously AT+ 77+ but i'm quite loose when i'm getting irritated by mentalists. I'd rather call, win, take the initiative and dominate. Or call, get owned, lose, and bugger off home.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2007, 12:50:21 AM »

88+/ AQ. Im not a fan of calling here.

 i am a fan of calling with these hands , if you are ahead and you hold up , you are in a good position to cash or win
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2007, 01:40:18 AM »

what do you think is a reasonable roi % playing these type of tournaments 45 player turbos which last about an hour?
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2007, 08:35:48 AM »

I can't believe how tight you guys all are here.

I start calling with a decent King..hell even King7 or King8 (preferably suited but if not than not) will do. What do you guys think Serial pusher has? Any King with a 7+ kicker is likely to be ahead more often than it's not and therefore uyou simply have to call and try to get yourself some chips. This is not the time to freeze-up, let the guys know that when they're autopushing they will be called by you. If you do that the first time and win they will think twice before doing it again..especially on your BB.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2007, 11:09:54 AM »

what do you think is a reasonable roi % playing these type of tournaments 45 player turbos which last about an hour?


dunno good question....

low I would think is the likely outcome, its quick and then push/fold poker from quite a way out..need a fair amount of luck
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2007, 11:19:32 AM »

I can't believe how tight you guys all are here.

I start calling with a decent King..hell even King7 or King8 (preferably suited but if not than not) will do. What do you guys think Serial pusher has? Any King with a 7+ kicker is likely to be ahead more often than it's not and therefore uyou simply have to call and try to get yourself some chips. This is not the time to freeze-up, let the guys know that when they're autopushing they will be called by you. If you do that the first time and win they will think twice before doing it again..especially on your BB.

I think the point is that if you do it the first time and lose, you're out.

With K7o for example, you're risking your tournament survival on hand when you are 60/40 favourite at best.  Of course, it depends on the situation and the stack sizes, etc., but I want to be pushing first rather than calling all-in if I can help it.
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