blonde poker forum
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
July 18, 2025, 09:14:42 AM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
2262307 Posts in 66604 Topics by 16990 Members
Latest Member: Enut
* Home Help Arcade Search Calendar Guidelines Login Register
+  blonde poker forum
|-+  Poker Forums
| |-+  The Rail
| | |-+  More Luck in Poker than most people think...............
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] Go Down Print
Author Topic: More Luck in Poker than most people think...............  (Read 8333 times)
Peter Costa
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 187


View Profile
« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2007, 09:54:03 PM »

TY Mant - someone gets the point I am trying to make

Hey Paul,

It's almost impossible for luck to even itself out. Firstly, a good and solid player can never dish out the beats as much as he recieves them. Simple reason being, he would not be risking his chips in a bad spot as much as he would with the best hand. And as we know, you can go on a run of losing with the best. In fact, I recall a friend of mine went out in eleven finals in row holding A-A. He actually gave up poker soon after that period (not saying that those beats were responsiblefor his retirement). But anyhow, he was one of those types of player who made very few mistakes. And as such, you would rarely see him behind in a any showdown. So how could the luck factor ever even itself out over a period?

But it also important to remember that there are varing degrees of luck. And as far as these are cocnerend, luck could more than even itself out. For example, six bad beats in a row in smalll events, and hitting runner runnner to win a major event.

Also, there must be players who are extremely lucky and unlucky. But at the end of the day, the more your play requires luck, the luckier you need to be. The thing is, there are players who play just like that. And to give an example.....


I remember how one top (very aggresive but somewhat loose) player,  got extremely unlucky in a major event. This was in the late stages of the event and for a pot that would have virtually assured him a place on final. Of course, he said something about his bad luck. Then someone reminded him about the many beats he had dished out during a reccent good run he had had. And to his credit, he just smiled and noddded his head. It was the kind of nod that said yep, I know what you mean. I had played many times with the player in question, and the truth is, his ratio was about 10-1 in terms of giving and receiving beats.

PS,

The above same player, has actually changed his style of play in the last couple of years and has become far more selective with his hands. Perhaps in this example, luck will even itself out. Though I bet he hopes it doesn't!   
Logged
AlexMartin
spewtards r us
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 8039


rat+rabbiting society of herts- future champ


View Profile WWW
« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2007, 11:58:33 PM »

Interesting that people think that luck 'evens itself out' over a period of time...

You are born white in a first world country while other peep is born in Darfur. If the 'it evens itself out' theory was true then a whole heap of sh*t needs to happen to you for the theory to work.

In poker.

er....I believe that may have qualified for the daftest response of the year.


eg...man walks away from a plane crash - plays poker and gets his AA cracked....in your world he is 'unlucky'....or you argue the two events are unrelated. Which if you do is even more daft. Quantify 'survivors of plane crashes' vs 'people who have had AA cracked'..... go figure

Just saw this and had to defend myself, although Moskovich is right, in the context of poker was what i meant.

You are trying to put the world right, im trying to discuss a poker thread.

Ill be the daft one, you can be the twat.
Logged
AndrewT
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 15483



View Profile WWW
« Reply #77 on: August 29, 2007, 12:15:46 AM »

A guy uses the same lottery numbers every Saturday for 10 years with no joy..one Saturday he forgets..and his numbers come up. Even the most hardened statastician must agree this is pretty bloody unlucky!

But, similarly, some other guy may play the lottery for the first time one week, and win the jackpot.

And yet both had the same chance of winning.

Tournament poker, by its very nature, makes some hands way more important than all the others. In this select subset of hands throughout any substantial period of time, the odds of losing them all doesn't have to be that high. Make it losing, say, 5 out of 7, and the odds drop further.

The only way to be a long-term winner in live MTTs is to be a luckbox - skill will only get you so far.
Logged
M3boy
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 5785



View Profile WWW
« Reply #78 on: August 29, 2007, 12:18:55 AM »


The only way to be a long-term winner in live MTTs is to be a luckbox - skill will only get you so far.

I agree with this statement to an extent, by that I mean you firstly HAVE to have the skill to GET you in position THEN you need to be a luckbox.

Being a luckbox only will NOT make you a winning MTT player

IMO of course
Logged
AndrewT
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 15483



View Profile WWW
« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2007, 12:20:56 AM »


The only way to be a long-term winner in live MTTs is to be a luckbox - skill will only get you so far.

I agree with this statement to an extent, by that I mean you firstly HAVE to have the skill to GET you in position THEN you need to be a luckbox.

Being a luckbox only will NOT make you a winning MTT player

IMO of course

You didn't play in the SNG with Dewi on Sat night - no skill at all, that man, all luckbox.
Logged
AlexMartin
spewtards r us
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 8039


rat+rabbiting society of herts- future champ


View Profile WWW
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2007, 10:12:38 AM »

You know what you are getting into when you enter an mtt. Unless the structure is super super slow (like GJP festival) it is still a crapshoot. Someone has the tag "donkaments for show, cash for dough" and it rings true from where im standing.
Logged
bolt pp
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 10906



View Profile
« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2007, 10:18:50 AM »

You know what you are getting into when you enter an mtt. Unless the structure is super super slow (like GJP festival) it is still a crapshoot. Someone has the tag "donkaments for show, cash for dough" and it rings true from where im standing.

enough people play mtts for a living
Logged
AlexMartin
spewtards r us
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 8039


rat+rabbiting society of herts- future champ


View Profile WWW
« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2007, 05:07:24 PM »

You know what you are getting into when you enter an mtt. Unless the structure is super super slow (like GJP festival) it is still a crapshoot. Someone has the tag "donkaments for show, cash for dough" and it rings true from where im standing.

enough people play mtts for a living

I understand online as you can put in the vast quantities needed to combat variance, but live how many uk festival players are actually making a decent wage at the end of the year after all expenses. Very few id imagine.
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.149 seconds with 19 queries.