champs league draw

[fergus8]

2007/08 UEFA Champions League
Group stage draw - 18.00CET, Thursday
POT 1
Team    Pairing
AC Milan (ITA, holders)    A
FC Barcelona (ESP)    B
Liverpool FC (ENG)    C
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)    A
Arsenal FC (ENG)    D
Real Madrid CF (ESP)    B
Chelsea FC (ENG)    D
Manchester United FC (ENG)    C

POT 2
Team    Pairing
Valencia CF (ESP)    E
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)    F
FC Porto (POR)    
Sevilla FC (ESP) / AEK Athens FC (GRE)    E/M
PSV Eindhoven (NED)    
AS Roma (ITA)    G
SL Benfica (POR)    H
Werder Bremen (GER)    I

POT 3
Team    Pairing
Celtic FC (SCO)    J
FC Schalke 04 (GER)    
VfB Stuttgart (GER)    I
FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)    
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)    
Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)    H
S.S. Lazio (ITA)    G
Olympique de Marseille (FRA)    F

POT 4
Team    Pairing
Rangers FC (SCO)    J
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)    K
Beşiktaş JK (TUR)    L
Olympiacos CFP (GRE)    M
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)    K
Fenerbahçe (TUR)    L
Slavia Praha (CZE)    
Rosenborg BK (NOR)    

[fergus8]

easiest group for rangers

arsenal
psv
steaua bucharest
rangers

hardest group

barcelona
lyon
schalke
rangers


most glamourous

chelsea
sevilla
lazio
rangers

[matt674]

easiest group for rangers

arsenal
psv
steaua bucharest
rangers

hardest group

barcelona
lyon
schalke
rangers


most glamourous

chelsea
sevilla
lazio
rangers

what does it matter - you're only playing for a spot in the UEFA cup either way............

 

[fergus8]

not if we get arsenal psv and steaua.

[matt674]

not if we get arsenal psv and steaua.

If that is your group i'll double the best odds you can find of rangers to qualify to next stage.

Regardless of your group you will struggle to finish top 2

[Suited_Jock]

Am I right in thinking Celtic could draw rangers?

[matt674]

no, you cannot play a team from the same country in the group stages or first round of the knockout draw

[Suited_Jock]

K,

I was thinking that but then wasn't sure.. I take it that's what the letter means beside pairing..

[Rod Paradise]

I take it that's what the letter means beside pairing..

Yep, there's a horrendously complicated explanation of how it works somewhere on t'interweb.

[lazaroonie]

not if we get arsenal psv and steaua.

If that is your group i'll double the best odds you can find of rangers to qualify to next stage.

Regardless of your group you will struggle to finish top 2

what odds to qualify if Celtic draw Arsenal and PSV ?

 

[matt674]

a horrendously complicated explanation of how it works

two teams from the same country cannot be placed in the same group or play each other in the first knockout round, nor can two teams who finish first and second in the same group be paired together in the knock out stages.

how can you make that horrendously complicated?  

though knowing UEFA and FIFA best not to answer that!!

[matt674]

not if we get arsenal psv and steaua.

If that is your group i'll double the best odds you can find of rangers to qualify to next stage.

Regardless of your group you will struggle to finish top 2

what odds to qualify if Celtic draw Arsenal and PSV ?

 

i'll give you half the odds.

monkey matt the honest bookmaker.........

[johnbhoy76]

going by recent seasons in the CL I'd say Inter are the weakest of the top seeds.

They only won Serie A because every other big club was either relegated or docked points.

they have been very poor in Europe (compared to the other top seeds)

If Rangers get Arsenal it wont even be funny what Arsenal would do to rangers. Can't understand why you would want Arsenal.

The group I'd like to see Celtic get

First of all in terms of just going through

Inter
Porto
Celtic
Rosenborg

I think we'd have a real crack at getting through that group. Porto are in pot 2 based on past glory's but are nowhere near as good as they once were under Mourinho

In terms of glamour. I'd go for

Real Madrid
Roma
Celtic
Olympiakos

Although I think that would be goodnight vienna for the hoops

[lazaroonie]

a horrendously complicated explanation of how it works

two teams from the same country cannot be placed in the same group or play each other in the first knockout round, nor can two teams who finish first and second in the same group be paired together in the knock out stages.

how can you make that horrendously complicated?  

though knowing UEFA and FIFA best not to answer that!!

actually I am little bit annoyed about the seedings - they are making the draw today before the final match (seville vs somebody) has been played, because the player died at the weekend. now seville are in pot two, but the team they are playing are potentially "pot four". This would mean, if the match was played before the draw, and the other team go thru, celtic would move up to pot two(cos a pot two team has been knocked out).

Instead what they are going to do, is make the draw, then play the final qualifying match and if it does mean that the other team knock seville out, they are going to put them into pot 2, therefore preserving the draw made today.

quite frankly its ridiculous.

[matt674]

a horrendously complicated explanation of how it works

two teams from the same country cannot be placed in the same group or play each other in the first knockout round, nor can two teams who finish first and second in the same group be paired together in the knock out stages.

how can you make that horrendously complicated?  

though knowing UEFA and FIFA best not to answer that!!

actually I am little bit annoyed about the seedings - they are making the draw today before the final match (seville vs somebody) has been played, because the player died at the weekend. now seville are in pot two, but the team they are playing are potentially "pot four". This would mean, if the match was played before the draw, and the other team go thru, celtic would move up to pot two(cos a pot two team has been knocked out).

Instead what they are going to do, is make the draw, then play the final qualifying match and if it does mean that the other team knock seville out, they are going to put them into pot 2, therefore preserving the draw made today.

quite frankly its ridiculous.

there's more chance of rangers making the knockout stages of the champions league than there is of AEK Athens being in the group stages..................