How to cock up alternates and late entries? a case study

[bolt pp]

why didn't you say:  "do you know who i am"!

[TightEnd]

LOL

Guaranteed not to work that one, unless you are tikay

[AndrewT]

LOL

Guaranteed not to work that one, unless you are tikay

As if there's anyone who doesn't know who Tikay is.

[kinboshi]

LOL

Guaranteed not to work that one, unless you are tikay

As if there's anyone who doesn't know who Tikay is.

The one at the front on the right didn't.  He's trying to hide his embarrassment.

[bolt pp]

LOL

Guaranteed not to work that one, unless you are tikay

As if there's anyone who doesn't know who Tikay is.

The one at the front on the right didn't.  He's trying to hide his embarrassment.

It's not that, he's just regretting asking tikay how his journey was?

[doubleup]

These rules are new and we are learning more each day.It is however difficult to keep everyone happy.Do we start with 5/6 to a table,so we can add alternates as they arrive but make the players that are seated play short handed, or do we start with 7/8 to a table so the players still get a decent game and have a small number of seats available.
I am asking for your opinion as to which you would prefere if you are there on time and playing.


ALL THE COMPERTITIONS REGISRATIONS NOW CLOSE 10 MINUTES BEFORE THE START TIME, EVEN IF YOU ARE QUEUEING TO ENTER.

 

A common procedure is to put one stack of chips on each table for late arrivals.  These chips are removed if no one takes the seat.

[celtic]

33 runners ready for the kick off at 8.30. Why not set up 5 tables, 7 on 4 tables 5 on the other, put chips at 10 seats and blind them away, if they are not taken by the end of level 2 then remove the unused stacks. Simple? No? Yes?

i went into the cardroom on Monday before the comp started 8.29 roughly and was told i had to wait for the comp to start before i could join, which is fair enough. The reason being that if there was 50 people queing up (lol) then the comp would never get started. Sat down for the second hand and had to post the SB & BB as PUNISHMENT!!!! WTF is that all about???

It's ok realy cos i bluffed them back on the 3rd hand  but seems a daft rule. If you blind away the missing people then this seems fairer and may encourage them to get there and, that would make for a better game surely? it also stops them turning up 2 mins b4 the end of the re-buy period and getting in on the cheap. Particulary advantageous in the re-buy plus 1 add on OR re-buy comp on a monday where we had someone knocked out BEFORE another player had entered!!! In this comp you can turn up at the end of the re-buy, buy in & have a top up and go back after the break with 5700 chips whereas if u have a AA v KK situation on the first hand then have to fret for the next hour that if you lose your re-buy chips then you are out of the comp.

Vince

[M3boy]

Good point Vince

And one I hope they take on board.

Alternates have been going on in USA for some time and this is how they do it there.

They "fill" up the blank seats with chips and they get blinded away accordingly.

So when Alternates come and join, they just go to one of the empty seats with chips.

End of first break if the empty seats remain empty, the chips are removed.

Simple

But I would suspect that their computer system couldnt cope with this, if this is the case then they need a new system!

[turny]

Good point Vince

And one I hope they take on board.

Alternates have been going on in USA for some time and this is how they do it there.

They "fill" up the blank seats with chips and they get blinded away accordingly.

So when Alternates come and join, they just go to one of the empty seats with chips.

End of first break if the empty seats remain empty, the chips are removed.

Simple

But I would suspect that their computer system couldnt cope with this, if this is the case then they need a new system!

the simpleist and fairest way. its not rocket science is it!

[englishrose]

lol.  you are right it is not rocket science, but unlike in the states where they have rockets and a very good camera view of all tables and players at all times ( i have seen a camera check in the Luxor) we on the other hand DO NOT.
This is my fear, that allthough 99% of our players are very trustworthy, chips however do go missing from other players stacks and we are unable to see well enough as to where or who has them. So having these unattended chips on all the tables would have to be looked into, but as with anything you guys suggest i am always more than happy to pass this on.

see ya soon Nina.x

[TightEnd]

State of the art casino, £6m spent on it only six months ago

Get cameras that cover every table!!!


Sigh.

[kinboshi]

Just buy lots of these - that'll keep the other players' filthy mitts of those chips.

[Shogun112]

I have played in a few Alternates and can say this...

they were all 10 player games, so made it a little easier...

1st time played...  started the game....  6 tables full and 2 tables of 9....  therefore 2 empty seats...  Alternate open only for the first hour...  So...  1st person arrived, pays his money, and gets a seat....  2nd person, same.....  3rd person, he now has to wait for a seat when someone loses their chips...  that loser leaves his seat, and alternate 3 gets it...  The loser, if he wants to, becomes the first person after the next out...  The loser does not keep his seat and pay just like a rebuy...  One difference to this rule is...  If nobody is waiting and someone goes out...  He can stay where he is...

If another 9 players suddenly arrive and there are 10 waiting...  Another table is opened...  Not for any less than a full table, because, if 5 were on 1 table and 10 on the other 6 tables..  not fair..  No pulling people of other tables to make them 9 player tables etc...  ONLY add a new table if there is enough players to fill it completely...

So, although some people think there is a more sensible way of doing the alternates, you are not supposed to do it any other way than I explained..

[englishrose]

At any G or grosvenor we are not allowed at present to open a new table.No player who has come out of a comp can re-enter the same comp as an alternate even if there are seats.

I have played in a few Alternates and can say this...

they were all 10 player games, so made it a little easier...

1st time played...  started the game....  6 tables full and 2 tables of 9....  therefore 2 empty seats...  Alternate open only for the first hour...  So...  1st person arrived, pays his money, and gets a seat....  2nd person, same.....  3rd person, he now has to wait for a seat when someone loses their chips...  that loser leaves his seat, and alternate 3 gets it...  The loser, if he wants to, becomes the first person after the next out...  The loser does not keep his seat and pay just like a rebuy...  One difference to this rule is...  If nobody is waiting and someone goes out...  He can stay where he is...

If another 9 players suddenly arrive and there are 10 waiting...  Another table is opened...  Not for any less than a full table, because, if 5 were on 1 table and 10 on the other 6 tables..  not fair..  No pulling people of other tables to make them 9 player tables etc...  ONLY add a new table if there is enough players to fill it completely...

So, although some people think there is a more sensible way of doing the alternates, you are not supposed to do it any other way than I explained..

[englishrose]

State of the art casino, £6m spent on it only six months ago

Get cameras that cover every table!!!


Sigh.

YES PLEASE WOULD LOVE A CAMERA ON EVERY TABLE, WOULD MAKE MY LIFE MUCH EASIER.
I WILL LET YOU PUT THAT ONE TO MARTIN............best of luck........