A Couple O' Jocks in Paris!

[johnbhoy76]

I posted this thread in quite a euphoric state on Thursday morning. It was just supposed to show everyone what a great bunch of people the Scots are.

Nothing was mentioned about Celtic, Rangers, England, Ireland, McGeady or McLean or any other nonsense that's now being spouted. It's such a great great shame and has left me with a bitter taste.

Well they started it!!

Sorry, I'll get my coat 

[johnbhoy76]

To get back to the initial post

That was an awesome sight!

I think a lot of the frustrations over Mcgeady comes down to an unpleasant truth.

The Scots are great and it's great to be Scottish but it's just a wee bit better being Irish!

Scotland is Buzz Aldron, betamax, Pepsi etc...

Everywhere you go in the world there's people who's great great granny once had a pint of guiness who claim to be Irish and it really upsets the permarage brigade in Scotland.

Live and let live I say if someone says they're Irish then they're Irish in my book or French or Scots or whatever...

[The Dundonian]

I posted this thread in quite a euphoric state on Thursday morning. It was just supposed to show everyone what a great bunch of people the Scots are.

Nothing was mentioned about Celtic, Rangers, England, Ireland, McGeady or McLean or any other nonsense that's now being spouted. It's such a great great shame and has left me with a bitter taste.

Well they started it!!

Sorry, I'll get my coat 

Lol!
Just for the record though John, I'm a Roman Catholic ,I also had an Irish Grandfather and I'm a huge Celtic fan, but I was disappointed in McGeadys decision to choose Ireland, regardless of the circumstances.

[Teacake]

the celtic superheroes are in thier secret hideout when a red alert comes through....

"red alert red alert, a hun has posted on blonde again"

que dramatic theme tune....

teacake: ok lads we have a report of the usual suspects up to thier old tricks

div: do you mean cambo and fergus8?

teacake: yes those pesky kids are claiming mcgeady is a traitor for representing the mother land

brad.strider: ok so how do we deal with it this time?

teacake: well ill go on first and ridicule the claim, stalling for time whilst div will look up google for a similar story of a rangers player deserting, brad, you pose the question of the posters moral standing.

div: found an example boss, but its from 1909, is it still relevant?

teacake: of course it is lets post it immediatley

brad.s : it seems to be working captain, well done lads mission complete, and we didnt have to use our secret weapon this time, scottish dave.

teacake: yes we only use him in emergencies.

div: lets all go back to the tic cave and watch the 2003 uefa cup final.

brad. s : yes what a jolly good idea

lol that's actually quite funny. Who wrote it for you?

Nice to see you boys accepting you've been proved wrong. btw McLean made his international debut a year AFTER McGeady, so by your standards the McGeady debate is the irrelevant one.

 

no responce to bazzas post? wonder why?...

Beacuse half of what he has posted isn't true but mostly beacause your not going to change your mind & I'm not changing mine & we could be here all year.

I also feel a bit guilty about the thread being hijacked, apologies Dundonion.

[The Dundonian]

the celtic superheroes are in thier secret hideout when a red alert comes through....

"red alert red alert, a hun has posted on blonde again"

que dramatic theme tune....

teacake: ok lads we have a report of the usual suspects up to thier old tricks

div: do you mean cambo and fergus8?

teacake: yes those pesky kids are claiming mcgeady is a traitor for representing the mother land

brad.strider: ok so how do we deal with it this time?

teacake: well ill go on first and ridicule the claim, stalling for time whilst div will look up google for a similar story of a rangers player deserting, brad, you pose the question of the posters moral standing.

div: found an example boss, but its from 1909, is it still relevant?

teacake: of course it is lets post it immediatley

brad.s : it seems to be working captain, well done lads mission complete, and we didnt have to use our secret weapon this time, scottish dave.

teacake: yes we only use him in emergencies.

div: lets all go back to the tic cave and watch the 2003 uefa cup final.

brad. s : yes what a jolly good idea

lol that's actually quite funny. Who wrote it for you?

Nice to see you boys accepting you've been proved wrong. btw McLean made his international debut a year AFTER McGeady, so by your standards the McGeady debate is the irrelevant one.

 

no responce to bazzas post? wonder why?...

Beacuse half of what he has posted isn't true but mostly beacause your not going to change your mind & I'm not changing mine & we could be here all year.

I also feel a bit guilty about the thread being hijacked, apologies Dundonion.

No problem pal, the history of all the Gaelic/Celtic peoples are littered with infighting and division, tribal war and betrayal, just because I wish it wasn't or still isn't aint gonna change a ferking thing!

[BigTomatoes]

 i think if you look back at the thread ,Boldie said he didn't understand why people think Celtic fans dont support Scotland.
 
 then a few Celtic fans came on to disprove this theory by saying how much they enjoyed the game and how much they support Scotland. the only reason there is a sectarian undertone to this thread is because dunderheid fearisthekey came on and threw his tuppence in when the thread had nothing to do with him and he knew nothing about the the can of worms he was about to open , or maybe he did.

 at the end of the day , we all support Scotland , wether you support Ireland or England as well is irrelevant , what McGeady done is done , who cares ? just put it to bed. it's quite pathetic.  

 talk about Scotland's shame , this really is shameful.

[fearisthekey]

And there was me thinking you were such an expert. 


I made a perfectly straightforward reply to a perfectly straightforward question.

[BigTomatoes]

 no it wasn't a perfectly straightforward reply , maybe you should think twice before you make your thoughtless posts.

[fearisthekey]

 no it wasn't a perfectly straightforward reply , maybe you should think twice before you make your thoughtless posts.

oh the rangers are s****

 repeat

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[Rod Paradise]

ano was funny when mcgeady was quoted in the paper saying he was fed up with abuse he gets all over scotland cos he chose to play for ireland. what does he expect? he was born in kingspark fs! fair enough if u cant get a game for ur own country... but to be born here and decide to play elewhere? deserves all the abuse he gets and more

Get your facts right Cambo, McGeady picked Ireland cos Scotland didn't pick him at all for years for the schoolboys despite him being one of the best players in the country at his age.

Ireland gave him a chance & he took it, Scotland then tried to get him back when he made the Celtic 1st team, they messed it up big time.

Its just the usual ignorant bigots who give him abuse.

I'd suggest you get your own facts right too.  McGeady represented the Scottish national side until under 15s and played for the Scottish schoolboys until he joined Celtic. Now I'm not sure if the rule still exists but at the time to play for Scottish schoolboys you had to be registered with a Schoolboys team, Celtic didn't allow this (ie once you signed for Celtic you were not allowed to play for your school) and thus he couldn't play for Scottish Schoolboys.  A bit different from Scotland not picking him I think you will agree. All Celtic youngsters were in the same boat.  ROI were alerted to his eligibility and made an approach for him (their rules didn't require players to be registered with a Schoolboys team).  He has played for them ever since.

As for the ill-feeling towards him I'd suggest a lot of that is due to his initial press interview (circa 2002) where he cited as one of his reasons for opting to play for ROI was that he believed he had a better chance of playing at World Cups and European Championships.  At the time McGeady was being hailed as a wonderkid and the Scottish national side were struggling badly, thus the "traitor" stuff started.

McGeady was quite a unique case (for the home nations at least) in that he opted not to play for the country of his birth despite them being desperate for him to do so.  Others who jumped ship (eg Elliot, Hutchison, Sullivan, McEveley) did so because they knew they had no hope of being capped by "their own country".  This is why McGeady is singled out for abuse imo.

Some fact checking is due here as well Bazza - the same rule applied to the Rangers registered players - but they got picked by Scotland. McGeady had the chance to sign for Celtic, when Scotland knocked him back (at an impressionable age) he was offered a place in the Ireland U15's he played for Ireland from then on, was he meant to discard them? Or do a Dominic Matteo (Dumfries born), claim to be English (despite being brought up in Dumfries) until they stop picking you after U21's and B caps for England - then realise you aint good enough & say I'm Scottish now. The so judgemental Scotland support didn't have a problem with him that I recall?

I'm disappointed that a scots-born talented footballer chooses to play for someone else, but it's a pathetic excuse for the abuse he takes from the hypocrites who haven't dished it to Burton O'Brien, Matteo, Richard Gough, Dom Hutchinson, Brian MacLean, Peter Nichol or anyone else who feels a national identity other than their place of birth (or in some of those cases who cynically chooses one). It's maybe a sad sign of how the average football fan is led by the press in their thinking, as McGeady was the first to be singled out by the press for this kind of abuse, but I can understand why a more sinister face is judged upon the attempts to justify the abuse the boy gets.

[Rod Paradise]

And there was me thinking you were such an expert. 


I made a perfectly straightforward reply to a perfectly straightforward question.

A perfectly straightforward incorrect reply, stirring up a load of argument. If you don't know the answer don't demonstrate ignorance by making one up.

[thetank]

Good week to be a tcheuchter 

[bolt pp]

If ever there was a thread that wasnt intended to start a ruck but was 1/100 to kick off it was this.........

[thetank]

If ever there was a thread that wasnt intended to start a ruck but was 1/100 to kick off it was this.........

As old firm guff goes, I thought this came across as relatively good humoured.

So F*** you b***t ASFJhsd[jn/asklfnlaghpasd;fnvclbvksd

[bolt pp]

If ever there was a thread that wasnt intended to start a ruck but was 1/100 to kick off it was this.........

As old firm guff goes, I thought this came across as relatively good humoured.

So F*** you b***t ASFJhsd[jn/asklfnlaghpasd;fnvclbvksd

It comes to something when you cant even get a proper ruck out of a rangers celtic thread, it's been handbags!!! thats worse!!!

I thought scotland was hard when i watched trainspotting then i watched braveheart