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GlasgowBandit
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Champions League - Match Day 1
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September 18, 2007, 05:37:27 PM »
Well folks its arrive anyone any thoughts on tonights games.
Particularly the betting?
Normally when Celtic are away from home the money has to be on the home side. Celtic's record is atrocious on the road and as a Celtic fan it pains me to say it, however I have a new found confidence, I don't know if its the fact that there is a feel good factor in Scotland just now with the recent upturn in fortunes of the National team, or if its the fact that on our last 2 away games in Europe we have faired muche better than previously.
I'm not saying Celtic will win but I think the worse we will get is a draw.
All I hope for is a decent performance that sees us have a go at the opposition, and we compete for every ball.
Elsewhere I think given Porto's home record you have to give them a shout against Liverpool at 12/5. I also like Valencia's chances away to Schalke 04 and Marseilles should be too strong for Besitkas at home.
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Re: Champions League - Match Day 1
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September 18, 2007, 05:48:46 PM »
Quote from: GlasgowBandit on September 18, 2007, 05:37:27 PM
Normally when Celtic are away from home the money has to be on the home side. Celtic's record is atrocious on the road and as a Celtic fan it pains me to say it, however I have a new found confidence, I don't know if its the fact that there is a feel good factor in Scotland just now with the recent upturn in fortunes of the National team, or if its the fact that on our last 2 away games in Europe we have faired muche better than previously.
I'm not saying Celtic will win but I think the worse we will get is a draw.
All I hope for is a decent performance that sees us have a go at the opposition, and we compete for every ball.
Elsewhere I think given Porto's home record you have to give them a shout against Liverpool at 12/5. I also like Valencia's chances away to Schalke 04 and Marseilles should be too strong for Besitkas at home.
Funny that, but I feel pretty much the same about our chances tonight, I'm confident we can get a draw but I'm not sure why
Only problem is, whenever I'm confident we usually get pumped!
I wouldn't back against Liverpool against anyone in the Champions League, Rafas got it sussed. Have Valencia not got a few suspended after their battle with Inter last season?
I also think Rangers will win tomorrow night
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September 18, 2007, 06:16:56 PM »
I think The Hoops are in excellant shape for a win tonight. Much more potent now than in the last season or 2 and defending a bit better.
Boruc and McManus at the back and Brown up front to be the key men.
3-1 the Tic.
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God we are awful!
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whooops
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Re: Champions League - Match Day 1
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Quote from: celtic on September 18, 2007, 08:05:17 PM
God we are awful!
So were we.
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Re: Champions League - Match Day 1
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Quote from: celtic on September 18, 2007, 08:05:17 PM
God we are awful!
Thats being polite
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September 18, 2007, 10:16:43 PM »
Jeez, we don't give ourselves a chance in these games, it could have been 5 at half time!
Oh well back to the drawing board!
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September 18, 2007, 10:23:22 PM »
if celtic could have weathered the storm for the first 20mins would have been a totally diff game. goes without saying i suppose but ill take the £20 i won off my mate (celtic fan) for them being at least 2-0 up by half time
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shaktar far too good for pot 4
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September 19, 2007, 11:16:41 AM »
Quote from: fergus8 on September 19, 2007, 10:55:42 AM
shaktar far too good for pot 4
I'd like to believe that and I'd like to think Shaktar are one of the dark horses who could reach at least the semi final stages but it's not true.
The first goal was just a howler from Celtic's point of view. If we did that even in the SPL we'd lose a goal nevermind doing it away from home in the CL. That basically set the tone for the rest of the 1st half and we should have been 3-0 down inside 20 mins to be honest.
Our away form is just bizarre Our performances fall into two categories "absolute doings" & "Plucky defeats"
The doings seem to come against sides that we think we can beat i.e. Shaktar 3-0 & 2-0, Rosenborg 2-0, Anderlecht 1-0, Porto 3-0, Benfica 3-0, Copenhagen 3-1
The plucky defeats have come against the big guns and many of them have been very very unlucky with last minute penalties or last minute goals for the opposition. i.e Juventus 3-2, Lyon 3-2, Bayern Munich 2-1, Man Utd 3-2, Milan 3-1(was 1-1 with 5 mins to go!!) wee actually got a draw with Barcelona 1-1.
Juventus, Lyon & Bayern all scored their winners late on.
I have absolutely no idea what to make of all this. Going by all of this our best chance of taking anything away from home this year will be in Milan as opposed to Lisbon
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Re: Champions League - Match Day 1
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September 19, 2007, 04:30:40 PM »
Surely Strachan got his team selection/tactics wrong? I didn't see the game but looking at the side it looks a bit too attack minded for a tough Euro away game. Effective in the SPL but a bit too open in Europe without Lennon sitting giving the back 4 a bit of protection.
Don't need to worry about Walter doing that, we are putting out one of the most defensive sides in our history tonight
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September 19, 2007, 04:39:48 PM »
Quote from: Bazzaboy on September 19, 2007, 04:30:40 PM
Surely Strachan got his team selection/tactics wrong? I didn't see the game but looking at the side it looks a bit too attack minded for a tough Euro away game. Effective in the SPL but a bit too open in Europe without Lennon sitting giving the back 4 a bit of protection.
Don't need to worry about Walter doing that, we are putting out one of the most defensive sides in our history tonight
Giving the ball away cost us the most. Defender was passed to couldn't control an easy pass attacker passes to his team mate who takes a shot and scores.
Many other similar chances.
You can go over tactics, formations and all the rest but if you lose control in your own half continually then you pay the price.
The first 3 games were key. Donetsk, Glasgow v Milan and then Benfica. Bad start butif we beat Milan and Benfica win at home then it's 3 points all round and very much game on.
Walk on ....................
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Re: Champions League - Match Day 1
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September 19, 2007, 05:14:57 PM »
Quote from: Bazzaboy on September 19, 2007, 04:30:40 PM
Surely Strachan got his team selection/tactics wrong? I didn't see the game but looking at the side it looks a bit too attack minded for a tough Euro away game. Effective in the SPL but a bit too open in Europe without Lennon sitting giving the back 4 a bit of protection.
Don't need to worry about Walter doing that, we are putting out one of the most defensive sides in our history tonight
He put Hartley into the Lennon role when it went 2-0 but it was obviously too late by then.
Walter Smith would get football stopped but his defensive approach has got Rangers into the group stages, should make for an interesting first Old Firm of the season though with 2 very contrasting styles!
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Re: Champions League - Match Day 1
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September 19, 2007, 05:40:01 PM »
Quote from: Bazzaboy on September 19, 2007, 04:30:40 PM
Surely Strachan got his team selection/tactics wrong? I didn't see the game but looking at the side it looks a bit too attack minded for a tough Euro away game. Effective in the SPL but a bit too open in Europe without Lennon sitting giving the back 4 a bit of protection.
Don't need to worry about Walter doing that, we are putting out one of the most defensive sides in our history tonight
I think people criticising the team selection are going by hindsight. It's the same startin 11 that drew away to Moscow so prior to last night there was no evidence to suggest that line-up couldn't do a similar job in Donetsk.
The first goal was just an individual mistake that could have happened if you were playing 4-4-2, 4-3-3, or 4-5-1 etc... The manager is totally blameless for the 1st goal.
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