Ahead or behind?

[jezza777]

Game #5666346314: Hunt The Pro's (ID5534144) £25+£2 - Hold'em NL (200/400) - 2007/09/24 - 22:51:29 (UK)

Table "5534144 - 1" Seat 4 is the button.

Seat 1: tomhot (20865 in chips)

Seat 2: xklusive (12450 in chips)

Seat 4: sjelinek sits out

tomhot: posts the ante 50

xklusive: posts the ante 50

sjelinek: posts the ante 50

tomhot: posts small blind 200

xklusive: posts big blind 400

----- HOLE CARDS -----

dealt to xklusive [ ]

sjelinek: folds

tomhot: calls 200

xklusive: checks

----- FLOP ----- [ ]

tomhot: bets 800

xklusive: raises to 1600

tomhot: calls 800

----- TURN ----- [ ][]

tomhot: checks

xklusive: bets 2800

tomhot: calls 2800

----- RIVER ----- [ ][]

tomhot: bets 16015 and is all-in



xklusive???

Answers on a postcard pls. Its a fairly good standard of play with not many limped pots and reraising a- plenty, foe is quite TAG - as much as you can be 3- way . I have been super TAG for the last 2/3 of the tourney after playing like a donkey for the first 45 mins.

[temp0r]

he puts you on trips and is praying for you to call.

[deepreacher]

why min raise the flop?

[jezza777]

I figured I was ahead on the flop and wanted to get more in the pot.

[bhoywonder]

I figured I was ahead on the flop and wanted to get more in the pot.

you probably were ahead

but you forced him into calling pot-odds wise with any pair or draw

and he has caught up

If u had bet a lot more you would have had an easier decision and probably would have got the chips in earlier or would have been folded

he has a str8 or a set

fold

[temp0r]

if you thought you were ahead the min raise is still silly because you then only get action on later streets if you go behind.

[MANTIS01]

Yep, you are definitely beat here. The action suggests your oppo has 4-5 and hit his straight on the turn or 8-9 and made it on the river. I think a set is unlikely because your oppo would have played it a bit quicker due to the dangerous board and the all-in on the end would be a crazy move where he is only called by a better hand.

Although you may have been ahead on the flop your hand is vulnerable because the board is rife with draws so I don't think pot-building at this stage was a good idea.

Of course he could have a busted flush draw and if so the question he asks is a good one. Hence why slow-playing or pot-building with a hand that is far from the nuts is not desirable....you have pot-built into a situation where you can't make the call.

[AdamG]

he has 89 fold.

[TheChipPrince]

Losing, fold... But you only have yourself to blame...

[johnbhoy76]

I figured I was ahead on the flop and wanted to get more in the pot.

You should have got a lot more in the pot though. The minimum raise just gives any sort of drawing hand justification to stick around.

In this situation (playing short handed) and with that flop I am prepared to go bust with my top two pair if he's flopped a set then so be it.

I am re-raising to about 2500 on the flop and if he goes all in I am calling, if he re-raises then I am going all in.

I am not putting this hand down on the flop and I am not letting him see the trun card on the cheap either.

I think you should have played this a lot stronger on the flop

[pswnio]

What everyone else said. You've priced in a drawing hand and should have played it stronger on the flop.

You're beaten by the straight (or, possibly, a set, though unlikely) or beating a busted flush draw. 2-1 you're beaten and I don't think you can call to find out.

[celtic]

There are a lot of hands youre losing to, he could well have had A9 hearts and was betting the flop to buy the turn cheaply, no way you can call and expect to be ahead.