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Dingdell
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Re: What is a semi professional player?
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October 10, 2007, 03:52:00 PM »
Quote from: rudders on October 10, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
are semi pros allowed to play APAT events?
APAT dont catagorise players like that - they use the following definition:
The dictionary defines an amateur as "a person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity as a pastime rather than as a profession."
For the avoidance of doubt, Membership of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour is not available to any individual who earns his or her SOLE income as a result of a) playing poker or b) utilising their poker expertise to supplement their poker income away from the table, for example, a professional poker player who also earns a fee as a TV poker analyst.
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October 10, 2007, 03:59:01 PM »
Quote from: Dingdell on October 10, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: rudders on October 10, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
are semi pros allowed to play APAT events?
APAT dont catagorise players like that - they use the following definition:
The dictionary defines an amateur as "a person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity as a pastime rather than as a profession."
For the avoidance of doubt, Membership of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour is not available to any individual who earns his or her SOLE income as a result of a) playing poker or b) utilising their poker expertise to supplement their poker income away from the table, for example, a professional poker player who also earns a fee as a TV poker analyst.
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Re: What is a semi professional player?
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October 10, 2007, 04:11:33 PM »
Quote from: Dingdell on October 10, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: rudders on October 10, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
are semi pros allowed to play APAT events?
APAT dont catagorise players like that - they use the following definition:
The dictionary defines an amateur as "a person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity as a pastime rather than as a profession."
For the avoidance of doubt, Membership of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour is not available to any individual who earns his or her SOLE income as a result of a) playing poker or b) utilising their poker expertise to supplement their poker income away from the table, for example, a professional poker player who also earns a fee as a TV poker analyst.
I remember the previous discussions on this... so therefore the answer to this thread (according to apat) is that there is no such thing as a semi professional player?
or maybe a re-branding is needed-----> ASPPAT ( Amateur and Semi Pro Poker Assosiation Tour) then we could all be ass patters perhaps?
Not sure if this is helping?
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October 10, 2007, 04:44:54 PM »
Interesting post.
On the first GUKPT I got announced as a semi pro as the players are introduced onto the set and I subsequently got some sarcastic comments from Vicky Coren regarding that status.
The people interviewing at Sunset + Vine had asked what was my largest win and when I told them over $100k but that I mainly played online in my spare time the semi-pro tag was given to me.
The football analogy is a good one and if that is the case hoping to get crosscourtbh promoted from the Conference to Divsion 2 during 2007-08.
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are
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Quote from: rudders on October 10, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
are
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semi pros allowed to play APAT events?
If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.
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Quote from: Jon MW on October 10, 2007, 05:06:05 PM
Quote from: thediceman on October 10, 2007, 05:00:03 PM
Quote from: rudders on October 10, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
are
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semi pros allowed to play APAT events?
If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.
Teddy Sheringham???
Some sponsored players have other jobs outside poker.
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Quote from: thediceman on October 10, 2007, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: Jon MW on October 10, 2007, 05:06:05 PM
Quote from: thediceman on October 10, 2007, 05:00:03 PM
Quote from: rudders on October 10, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
are
SPONSORED
semi pros allowed to play APAT events?
If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.
Teddy
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Some sponsored players have other jobs outside poker.
Didn't think about that - I think it just goes to show how impossible it is to come up with a hard and fast rule that will apply universally.
- sponsored players, who are sponsored - because of their poker playing, and not for any other reason. They must be professionals - right?
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Quote from: Jon MW on October 10, 2007, 05:33:07 PM
Quote from: thediceman on October 10, 2007, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: Jon MW on October 10, 2007, 05:06:05 PM
Quote from: thediceman on October 10, 2007, 05:00:03 PM
Quote from: rudders on October 10, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
are
SPONSORED
semi pros allowed to play APAT events?
If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.
Teddy
Sheringham
Some sponsored players have other jobs outside poker.
Didn't think about that - I think it just goes to show how impossible it is to come up with a hard and fast rule that will apply universally.
- sponsored players, who are sponsored - because of their poker playing, and not for any other reason. They must be professionals - right?
Not sure, depends on what APA say
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October 10, 2007, 06:48:48 PM »
Professional - it is their proffession
Semi professional it is half of their proffession. Be careful. This sort of character is likely to get you half pregnant.
Amateur - from the french amour - love - is someone who has a love of the game
Proud to be amateur
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Men who make money playing poker while also surfing for pornography...FACT
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Re: What is a semi professional player?
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October 12, 2007, 07:39:54 PM »
Quote from: Jon MW on October 10, 2007, 05:06:05 PM
Quote from: thediceman on October 10, 2007, 05:00:03 PM
Quote from: rudders on October 10, 2007, 03:46:52 PM
are
SPONSORED
semi pros allowed to play APAT events?
If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.
And if you get a one-off, single Tourney, Sponsorship Deal, what does that make you?
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October 12, 2007, 08:36:58 PM »
Quote from: tikay on October 12, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
And if you get a one-off, single Tourney, Sponsorship Deal, what does that make you?
A high risk liability in the eyes of the sponsor?
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Quote from: Simon Galloway on October 12, 2007, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 12, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
And if you get a one-off, single Tourney, Sponsorship Deal, what does that make you?
A high risk liability in the eyes of the sponsor?
Hehe, got me!
But seriously, many players get one-off Sponsorship Deals, or "freebies", I can think of scores of such instances. Does that in itself make them Pros? If they got paid in to a single Event?
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Quote from: tikay on October 12, 2007, 08:46:18 PM
Quote from: Simon Galloway on October 12, 2007, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: tikay on October 12, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
And if you get a one-off, single Tourney, Sponsorship Deal, what does that make you?
A high risk liability in the eyes of the sponsor?
Hehe, got me!
But seriously, many players get one-off Sponsorship Deals, or "freebies", I can think of scores of such instances. Does that in itself make them Pros? If they got paid in to a single Event?
Good point - here is a good example of this if I've got the players right - Chilli and Claw - I think it was - got sponsored into the same womens event by the same sponsor - Chilli I would class as professional as she gave up her business to play poker, Claw is employed elsewhere.
Does the sponsorship make Claw a pro? No. It's just great to get to play in a tourney for free. Does it confirm Chillis status as a professional? In my eyes yes.
All very confusing.
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