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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2007, 03:52:00 PM »

are semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?

APAT dont catagorise players like that - they use the following definition:

The dictionary defines an amateur as "a person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity as a pastime rather than as a profession."

For the avoidance of doubt, Membership of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour is not available to any individual who earns his or her SOLE income as a result of a) playing poker or b) utilising their poker expertise to supplement their poker income away from the table, for example, a professional poker player who also earns a fee as a TV poker analyst.

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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2007, 03:59:01 PM »

are semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?

APAT dont catagorise players like that - they use the following definition:

The dictionary defines an amateur as "a person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity as a pastime rather than as a profession."

For the avoidance of doubt, Membership of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour is not available to any individual who earns his or her SOLE income as a result of a) playing poker or b) utilising their poker expertise to supplement their poker income away from the table, for example, a professional poker player who also earns a fee as a TV poker analyst.

are you after a job in their marketing department?
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2007, 04:11:33 PM »

are semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?

APAT dont catagorise players like that - they use the following definition:

The dictionary defines an amateur as "a person who engages in an art, science, study, or athletic activity as a pastime rather than as a profession."

For the avoidance of doubt, Membership of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour is not available to any individual who earns his or her SOLE income as a result of a) playing poker or b) utilising their poker expertise to supplement their poker income away from the table, for example, a professional poker player who also earns a fee as a TV poker analyst.



I remember the previous discussions on this... so therefore the answer to this thread (according to apat) is that there is no such thing as a semi professional player?

or maybe a re-branding is needed-----> ASPPAT ( Amateur and Semi Pro Poker Assosiation Tour)  then we could all be ass patters perhaps?


Not sure if this is helping?   
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2007, 04:44:54 PM »

Interesting post.
On the first GUKPT I got announced as a semi pro as the players are introduced onto the set and I subsequently got some sarcastic comments from Vicky Coren regarding that status.

The people interviewing at Sunset + Vine had asked what was my largest win and when I told them over $100k but that I mainly played online in my spare time the semi-pro tag was given to me.

The football analogy is a good one and if that is the case hoping to get crosscourtbh promoted from the Conference to Divsion 2 during 2007-08.

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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2007, 05:00:03 PM »

are SPONSORED semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2007, 05:06:05 PM »

are SPONSORED semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?

If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.
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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2007, 05:23:42 PM »

are SPONSORED semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?

If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.

Teddy Sheringham???

Some sponsored players have other jobs outside poker.
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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2007, 05:33:07 PM »

are SPONSORED semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?

If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.

Teddy SheringhamHuh?

Some sponsored players have other jobs outside poker.

Didn't think about that - I think it just goes to show how impossible it is to come up with a hard and fast rule that will apply universally.

 - sponsored players, who are sponsored - because of their poker playing, and not for any other reason. They must be professionals - right?
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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2007, 05:47:33 PM »

are SPONSORED semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?

If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.

Teddy SheringhamHuh?

Some sponsored players have other jobs outside poker.

Didn't think about that - I think it just goes to show how impossible it is to come up with a hard and fast rule that will apply universally.

 - sponsored players, who are sponsored - because of their poker playing, and not for any other reason. They must be professionals - right?

Not sure, depends on what APA say  stirthepot
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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2007, 06:48:48 PM »

Professional - it is their proffession
Semi professional it is half of their proffession. Be careful. This sort of character is likely to get you half pregnant.
Amateur - from the french amour - love - is someone who has a love of the game

Proud to be amateur
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2007, 08:40:34 PM »

Men who make money playing poker while also surfing for pornography...FACT
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2007, 07:39:54 PM »

are SPONSORED semi pros allowed to play APAT events?Huh?

If you're paid to play poker ie sponsored - I can't think of a more direct definition of professional.

And if you get a one-off, single Tourney, Sponsorship Deal, what does that make you?
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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2007, 08:36:58 PM »


And if you get a one-off, single Tourney, Sponsorship Deal, what does that make you?

A high risk liability in the eyes of the sponsor?
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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2007, 08:46:18 PM »


And if you get a one-off, single Tourney, Sponsorship Deal, what does that make you?

A high risk liability in the eyes of the sponsor?

Hehe, got me!

But seriously, many players get one-off Sponsorship Deals, or "freebies", I can think of scores of such instances.  Does that in itself make them Pros? If they got paid in to a single Event?
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« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2007, 12:39:41 PM »


And if you get a one-off, single Tourney, Sponsorship Deal, what does that make you?

A high risk liability in the eyes of the sponsor?

Hehe, got me!

But seriously, many players get one-off Sponsorship Deals, or "freebies", I can think of scores of such instances.  Does that in itself make them Pros? If they got paid in to a single Event?

Good point - here is a good example of this if I've got the players right - Chilli and Claw - I think it was - got sponsored into the same womens event by the same sponsor - Chilli I would class as professional as she gave up her business to play poker, Claw is employed elsewhere.

Does the sponsorship make Claw a pro? No. It's just great to get to play in a tourney for free.  Does it confirm Chillis status as a professional? In my eyes yes.

All very confusing.
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