Advice needed (Grosvenor casino)Newcastle

[LLevan]

hey levan

i seen a player earlier called llevan in the $5 rebuy on blonde

totally storming into a massive CL


wasnt u was it?

No it wasnt me but seems a bit strange that someone uses the same username as me since I use this on all sites that I play on except sometimes you might see a 1 or 2 after it if playing on a skin with more than 1 account with different operators.

[LLevan]

I know the person in question and have played with him for maybe 2 years or more and i have to say one thing he is not is a cheat he told me the story and i have spoken to other people who were there and they all say Dom hid his chips with his arm on purpose,held £60 in his hand and pushed the 60 in saying 'all in' which to my mind is a little bit naughty in itself.
Now the Dom in question got barred from Aspers for as one of the cardroom supervisors said"a suspicion of cheating with his friends" and some other incident so before everybody says ther,there,there poor Dom i suggest you hear more than one side of the story!
The person in question is an ex officer in the RAF whereas the "victim" has been barred from another casino for similar antics.I probably would have given Dom the benifit of the doubt and payed him the rest but also would have told him in no certain terms that i would never sit on the same poker table as him again.

Hiding chips is bad poker etiquette. However it appears from the original posters comments the CCTV was viewed prior to the card room making their ruling. As always there is always 2 sides to a story and the truth is usually somewhere in between the 2 sides. However once the ruling was given I would expect the opponent to abide by the ruling and also for the casino to either enforce it or ban the opponent and certainly wouldnt want to see him minutes later giving the house a spin at the roulette table.

[goldfoxdom]

I was not hiding my chips, if he had called and won he would of matched my whole stack and not just the 60 i bet as "all in". I would like to no how you think im banned from aspers for cheating please

[Camouflage]

As i said 1 of the card room supervisors who had been reading this post said to me that he had banned someone called Dom for "suspicion of cheating with his mates" now Dom i know you got banned from Aspers as you told me yourself so what did you get banned for?
Being a great sport who never cheats and always abides by the rules???
Anyway how can you hide chips accidentaly with your arm? your money should be visible at all times to protect yourself and opponents for this exact same thing and just because the cardroom had made the ruling that he had to pay you does not make it right because Newcastle grosvenor do not have a clue on the rules of poker they constantly contradict themselves to the point of farce its as if they have a wheel of fortune with different answers on and which ever 1 it lands on is the ruling for that day

[Camouflage]

LOL,i just worked out who you are Dom and to be fair i have never seen you cheat at the table altho you are a tad bit cocky.Anyway you should deff know not to hide your chips like that because your leaving yourself wideopen,so just a bit more common sense and a little less crying on poker forums and who knows you might not get banned from Grosvenor and Stanley as well

[goldfoxdom]

who are you ?

[Longy]

who are you ?

Duh he won't tell you that look at his name.

[goldfoxdom]

since he knows who i am he might, upto him.

[snoopy1239]

As i said 1 of the card room supervisors who had been reading this post said to me that he had banned someone called Dom for "suspicion of cheating with his mates" now Dom i know you got banned from Aspers as you told me yourself so what did you get banned for?
Being a great sport who never cheats and always abides by the rules???
Anyway how can you hide chips accidentaly with your arm? your money should be visible at all times to protect yourself and opponents for this exact same thing and just because the cardroom had made the ruling that he had to pay you does not make it right because Newcastle grosvenor do not have a clue on the rules of poker they constantly contradict themselves to the point of farce its as if they have a wheel of fortune with different answers on and which ever 1 it lands on is the ruling for that day

There are a number of times when cardroom managers make incorrect decisions, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't pay up. Like referees in football, their decision is final. It may have been a dive, but you can't just say it wasn't a penalty and try to play on.

[goldfoxdom]

i was banned for swearing at a manager in the card room, i wrote a letter of apology and will be makin a return in 3 weeks.

[Camouflage]

LOL,good 1 longy

on the original post when Doms says "i had 220 left and said all in" he conveniently forgot to mention that £160 was hidden behind his arm(the cardroom supervisor will verify that just like they did to the "villain" )
dom had £60 in his hand and pushed that in while saying all in. thats what narks me the fact that he has only told half the story.
A career in the media awaits mr.Goldfox probably with the currant bun.
Anyway Dom i will see you in Stanley on Tuesday night

[pumaboy]

I was informed of this site last night by a good friend of mine as my this story was being told incorrectly.  Therefore, i decided to tell my side of the event.

The man in question raised £15 pre flop - i called.
The flop came 

I had   

He bet £25 - i called

turn - 

He then moved £60 towards the line, and before it crossed the line he waved his hand and said "all in".

I said "call"

River  .

I moved £60 towards the guy to pay him.  He then lifted his arms up off the table a revealed more money( approx £70).

this is when i became unhappy because he WAS hidding his money as THE CCTV proved later.

I told him i would pay the £60, but not the rest(because of ungentlemanly conduct) - we don't do things like that at our cash tables in newcastle.

The card room manager was called and went to check the CCTV.

While she was away and we were waiting the guy then AGREED to take the £60 and carry on with the game.
However when the card room manager came back, the FIRST thing she said was - " YOU ARE HIDING YOUR MONEY",
but i have been onto another casino and they have told me an all in call is an all in call.

I know the rules and i know i am an honest and trustworthy guy who is well known in all the casinos in newcastle.

However, what the guy did, i believe was out of order.

I paid the £60 and left the table.

I DID NOT GO ON THE ROULETTE, I went outside for a smoke and the manageress came out within 5 mins and asked me to leave, which i did.

I have been banned from The Grovesnor Casino for refusing to pay the other £70.

Since this event took place, I have found out that the same guy had been accused of cheating at the cash table the week prior at the same casino AND was banned from Aspers for cheating.

I will let you all make up your own minds.

thanks

[thediceman]

I was not hiding my chips, if he had called and won he would of matched my whole stack and not just the 60 i bet as "all in".

Yes, but he may of not made the call if it was going to cost him more.

Yours was the first act that created the situation. The question is was you move an accident or not???

[pumaboy]

I was not hiding my chips, if he had called and won he would of matched my whole stack and not just the 60 i bet as "all in".

Yes, but he may of not made the call if it was going to cost him more.

Yours was the first act that created the situation. The question is was you move an accident or not???

I would NOT have made the call for £130.  I only called because i believed it was £60.

[Camouflage]

Over to you Dom



DOM, DOM, DOM?