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« on: October 26, 2007, 11:53:49 AM »

hi all , i was a railbird the other week following daniel negreanu in a competition on the internet,
he gave the old question to the railbirds ,when is it 100% right to fold pocket aces, the answer he gave was correct, i never got the answer so heres a few clues, its a heads up situation,
nothing about folding to get into the money,i will post his answer later if anyone interested.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2007, 12:02:16 PM »

HU Pre-flop: NEVER

HU Post-flop: When you KNOW you are behind or the other guys 'drawing odds' (in your mind) are monster.

I've heard it said that Negreanu would do it pre-flop (but perhaps not HU) just to prove to himself he can...but why?

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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2007, 12:06:32 PM »

 

Pre Flop - NEVER

Post Flop - If the board is suddenly dangerous, let it go.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2007, 12:07:57 PM »

dorry i should of said its a pre flop situation
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2007, 12:10:56 PM »

The only time I can think of is in a satellite when you have a decent stack and are very close to the seats on offer. Unlike a tourney there's no difference in coming say 30th (If that's when the seat payout starts) and 1st.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2007, 12:11:45 PM »

Hmmmmmmm, he's made plenty of money throughout his career, so he MUST have some good reason for it.  Will have a think and get back to ya.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2007, 12:25:32 PM »

briliant answer vegas lover,i would say you are correct but may not be 100% right as you could still be blinded out if shortstacks keeps stealing,its not the answewr daniel gave
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2007, 12:29:52 PM »

If everyone at the table moves all in and one of them somehow exposes his pocket aces?
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2007, 12:54:43 PM »

The only time I can think of is in a satellite when you have a decent stack and are very close to the seats on offer. Unlike a tourney there's no difference in coming say 30th (If that's when the seat payout starts) and 1st.
This is the one and only time I have folded AA pre-flop.  It was in a freeroll where top 50 got through to next round.  There were 59 entrants left and I was in a comfortable position where I could fold into a seat.  And I did!
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2007, 01:05:35 PM »

Satellite situation or biggest buyin tourny u ever played and whole table moves all in pre flop......
Fold and move to another table Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2007, 02:31:04 PM »

Is it when you go on a break and have a cigarette with the missus and she starts to talk about stuff like her work or holidays or some other nonsense. You can't just stand up 4 minutes 45 seconds later and admit "sorry darling i wasn't listening to single word you said as i was thinking about how i managed to lose a chunk of chips 5 minutes ago and the break is over so i'm off" Sad i know but i'm not that brave....so i continue to nod or agree to something i've no idea i'm agreeing to in order to get back just in time to see the time bank elapse and your aces mucked.

is that the answer cause i'm pretty sure its right?

Otherwise it's a Sat bubble and everyone else is all-in.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2007, 02:46:27 PM »

Deffo in a satellite situation if you're close to the seats...every day of the week. 

That said, if there's only one seat and you're down to heads up play, I'd be hard pressed to fold pre flop here.  You're playing for the win and that's the best you can hope for pre-flop in a heads up situation.
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2007, 02:55:18 PM »


I assume this some sort of trick question like when the other player goes AI and you know somehow that he has aces as well or your aces are both clubs or something.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2007, 02:56:16 PM »

Were KingPoker and Geo at the table?
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2007, 02:57:08 PM »

Were KingPoker and Geo at the table?


Or Tikay? 
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