Any escape?

[rudders]

was going well in todays million on stars when this happened..
feel i was cold decked and could not put the guy on his hand however
1) should I have raised from sb ( not keen on this as if called you have to play a raised pot out of position with moderate hand)
2)when he raised me the first time is there an argument for calling- i didnt want the board to pair- or so i thought!
3) is there any way i can or should get away from the hand when he rerereraises me- I was saying to myself-- there is no way he has ak haha.



PokerStars Game The big one!
Seat 1: manager1st (13720 in chips)
Seat 2: POCKESI (10325 in chips)
Seat 3: zerosado (5770 in chips)
Seat 4: 1CLS500 (12550 in chips)
Seat 5: MrTile (12850 in chips)
Seat 6: AK87 (14110 in chips)
Seat 7: der Falk (11925 in chips)
Seat 8: 1eyeJ (9850 in chips)
Seat 9: rudders (19125 in chips)
rudders: posts small blind 100
manager1st: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rudders [ ]
POCKESI: folds
zerosado: folds
1CLS500: folds
MrTile: folds
AK87: folds
der Falk: folds
1eyeJ: folds
rudders: calls 100
manager1st: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
rudders: checks
manager1st: checks
*** TURN *** [ ] []
rudders: bets 200
manager1st: raises 400 to 600
rudders: raises 1600 to 2200
manager1st: raises 11320 to 13520 and is all-in
rudders: calls 11320
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rudders: shows [ ] (a straight, Nine to King)
manager1st: shows [ ] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
manager1st collected 27440 from pot

[M3boy]

The way he has played it, I dont think it would of made any diff if you raised preflop - I think he flat calls.

Result is the same.

[Ironside]

if there is an escape i couldnt have made it

[Longy]

if there is an escape i would lose alot of money folding the best hand long term

FYP

[temp0r]

if he played like this you surely had him marked as a MOUSE?!
personally i raise preflop and bet the flop. so probably would of had him lay it down there and then. this kinda situation is why i rarely flat call from the in tournaments. try and always raise or fold.

[AlexMartin]

no way you are EVER getting away from this. Thats why the new lag is wap.

[boldie]

no way you are EVER getting away from this. Thats why the new lag is wap.

lol..

yeah a bit cold decked here not much you can do.

[LuckyLloyd]

I prefer to raise preflop. He has a random hand - so a raise takes the blinds most of the time; a raise plus continuation bet almost always unless he is a very tough, aggro defender that you are picking on. Limping in here with marginal hands and only raising decent hands when folded to you in the small blind is obviously something that could be exploited in the long run.

As played: LOL DONKAMENTS. Nothing you can do. Except run better.

[TheChipPrince]

i dont mind the limp pre-flop, but when he re-re-raises 11300 more if HAVE to put him on AK, would he risk tourney with trips here on straighting board? I doubt it... I think you can get away from it...

[LuckyLloyd]

i dont mind the limp pre-flop, but when he re-re-raises 11300 more if HAVE to put him on AK, would he risk tourney with trips here on straighting board? I doubt it... I think you can get away from it...

The board doesn't have four to a straight or three to a flush on it. He didn't raise preflop so I guess you can remove the possibillity of first or second set. But he absolutely will play 33, 1010, J10, Q10, QJ this way. And sometimes Kx suited.

This is a cooler and folding would be akin to burning money IMO.


Another thing to consider is the nature of this particular tournament. Given the amount of runners; the fast structure; and the top heavy nature of the prizepool - it really is not the game for big heroic laydowns. Additionally, the field is full of players who have no problem risking their "tournament life" in this spot with stuff that isn't AK.

I really don't think that you could or should get away from it.

[TheChipPrince]

Your posts offer some good explanations Lloyd, but on this one we'll agree to disagree!

[MKKfish]

Rudders,
At 100/200 blinds I'm folding preflop for precisely this kind of situation arising - yeah sure you maybe ahead but for the sake of 300 chips you can only get either (a) the 300 or (b) get f*cked over.
Cheers,
MKKfish