KK OOP Multi Way Connected Board

[TightEnd]

$2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em

Seat 1: Hero ($964.20)
Seat 2: FittSmurf ($595.85)
Seat 3: toJongbraNdon ($512.60)
Seat 4: EwaLotte ($400)
Seat 5: check_kills1 ($750.60)
Seat 6: Zockermicha ($221.20)
Seat 7: Narena ($415.60)
Seat 8: peeintheriva ($89.50)
Seat 9: giveusakiss ($414.10)

Hero posts the small blind of $2
FittSmurf posts the big blind of $4

The button is in seat #9

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ ]

toJongbraNdon calls $4
EwaLotte folds
check_kills1 calls $4
Zockermicha folds
Narena folds
peeintheriva folds
giveusakiss folds
Hero raises to $20
FittSmurf folds
toJongbraNdon calls $16
check_kills1 calls $16

*** FLOP *** [ ]

Hero bets $64
toJongbraNdon calls $64
check_kills1 calls $64

*** TURN *** [ ] []

Hero checks
toJongbraNdon checks
check_kills1 bets $60
Hero ?

I checked OOP on the turn despite hitting top set because I am against two opponents, connected and now flushing board, and I've been called in two spots on the flop

I intended when checking to check call and get to river cheaply, rather than bet out, and face heat.


What line should I be using on the turn here please, both first to act and then having checked facing a bet...?


both opponents are plain vanilla, steady types

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[byronkincaid]

i would check flop bet turn. as played call turn hit full house

[snoopy1239]

You have telegraphed the strength of your hand pre-flop, so on that Flop, I would probably call your bet whatever two cards I have. Therefore, I would go for a check-raise to induce a bet from one of your opponents. Raise enough so they can't call with the open-ended, and you should get a better idea of where you stand, plus it'll probably be a lot cheaper then betting the flop and check-calling the turn and river.

As it stands, check-calling the turn and then making your mind up on the river is probably the best way forward. You can't fold at this point, as a full house on the river could clean out an opponent.

[Graham C]

I'd check call here too.  If you hit the FH, then it's all steam ahead, but I can't fold in this situation.

[The_duke]

I think (and thats not often) that he (having bet $60 into a $252 pot) is inticing a call having filled the nut flush (why call u pre and post flop other than with two high hearts -- or pair and has a smaller set and could be looking to see where he stands--) call his pissy bet and batter the shiite out of him if you fill.......

[temp0r]

if the guy who bets the turn DOES have the nut flush already then you have to call because he has over $500 or so back and will probably stack off to you on the river if you house up (given his weak preflop play).

[TightEnd]

Hero calls $60
toJongbraNdon folds

*** RIVER ***  

Hero checks, having not housed up

To check fold? To call a value bet? Or should I have block bet?

[Graham C]

eugh, can't get any worse.   I think I'd have to fold to any decent bet.   If it's around 1/4 of the pot, I may call but it's a crappy board

[M3boy]

The A Hearts is THE best card for you (apart from the board pairing up or the K obviously).

I would stick out a block bet - maybe he lays down a baby flush now

[AlexMartin]

The A Hearts is THE best card for you (apart from the board pairing up or the K obviously).

I would stick out a block bet - maybe he lays down a baby flush now

Yeah, i bluff big now. Great card for you.

I like how your line for the whole of this hand.

[doubleup]

The A Hearts is THE best card for you (apart from the board pairing up or the K obviously).

I would stick out a block bet - maybe he lays down a baby flush now

He never lays down a flush to a blocker.  I'm not sure the ace is the best card for bluffing - there are a lot more hands that we would raise from oop that contain the ace of hearts than the queen of hearts.  What hand do we call the turn with?  I suppose QxQh is possible - but if we are representing that we would have to bet much more on the riv than a blocker.

[snoopy1239]

I'm giving this up, he could easily have Queen high flush, say . Also, online, many players will still call with the weaker flush. For weak players, they don't like to fold after making their hand, especially to a small block bet, whilst strong players will detect the bluff, mainly because you haven't really represented a Queen high flush throughout the hand. is a minor possibility, but if you bet this, and I was sitting with any kind of flush, I would call like lightning.

I check hoping he had a smaller set and checks behind me.

For some reason though, I get the feeling that you're going to tell us that he flopped the straight.

[TightEnd]

I check hoping he had a smaller set and checks behind me.

bingo

*** RIVER ***  
hero checks
check_kills1 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***

check_kills1 shows [ ] three of a kind, Sixes
hero shows [ ] three of a kind, Kings
hero wins the pot with three of a kind, Kings


Of course the board is horrific to maximise from but I do think I had an exaggerated fear of the flush here and wondered if I could have won more out of the hand

set under set and he isn't stacked, seemed like a missed opportunity to me

[doubleup]

set under set and he isn't stacked, seemed like a missed opportunity to me

lol just be thankful.  I assume that if he plays his hand strongly on the flop, you are folding. 

[Smart Money]

I check hoping he had a smaller set and checks behind me.

bingo

*** RIVER ***  
hero checks
check_kills1 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***

check_kills1 shows [ ] three of a kind, Sixes
hero shows [ ] three of a kind, Kings
hero wins the pot with three of a kind, Kings


Of course the board is horrific to maximise from but I do think I had an exaggerated fear of the flush here and wondered if I could have won more out of the hand

set under set and he isn't stacked, seemed like a missed opportunity to me

Not at all. You should be thankful for the lucky turn card. He'd have to be terrible to get stacked on that board with close to 200BB.