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Question: Which button do you press?  (Voting closed: November 23, 2007, 01:54:26 AM)
Call - 28 (80%)
Fold - 7 (20%)
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« on: November 16, 2007, 01:54:26 AM »

JackJordon - 21 hands, VP$IP 43%/PFR 5%/AF 13
_Ontheline_ - 1046 hands, VP$IP 22%/PFR 7%/AF 1.58



** Game ID 1720948294 starting - 2007-11-16 01:33:16
** Something Beautiful [Hold 'em] (3.00|6.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- DODARN sitting in seat 1 with $1280.05
- Diagonals sitting in seat 2 with $1282.60
- xxRalfxx sitting in seat 3 with $99.00
- rudddaniel sitting in seat 4 with $1125.95
- _OntheLine_ sitting in seat 5 with $709.05 [Dealer]
- JackJordan sitting in seat 6 with $682.90

JackJordan posted the small blind - $3.00
DODARN posted the big blind - $6.00
** Dealing card to rudddaniel:  ,
Diagonals folded
xxRalfxx folded
rudddaniel raised - $24.00
_OntheLine_ called - $24.00
JackJordan went all-in - $682.90
DODARN folded
rudddaniel....
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2007, 06:05:27 AM »

Is this on a site which has an All-in button? Just might be a mis-click. Call to find out.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2007, 09:07:31 AM »

Depends on his previous play, no read, I call...
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2007, 09:35:15 AM »

If he does this with AA/KK/AK, you are a slght favorite. but ppl who do this have AA a lot, in fact I've never seen anyone do this with QQ.  Unless you've raised pre-flop for 10 of the last 20 hands and given the impression that you are a maniac, I'd be inclined to pass.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2007, 10:11:37 AM »

Depends on his previous play, no read, I call...

Depends on his previous play, no read, I fold...
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2007, 11:41:10 AM »

Cash game instacallage.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2007, 11:52:54 AM »

I can't fold KK pre-flop to this sort of push by one guy in a short handed cash game if he has only been playing 21 hands. I know it's a popular way to play Aces pre-flop but I have seen too many people lay JJ this way pre-flop aswell.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2007, 12:23:24 PM »

I call. Need a solid read to pass, this guy is running 43/5 (only 21 hands i know) indicates he isn't exactly the best, so i call and expect to be ahead.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2007, 12:28:40 PM »

That means, he's played 8/9 hands in about 3.5 orbits, it's not that many, he could have just had a pretty good run of cards. He has only raised once in that time as well, so it's not like he's been really aggressive preflop!
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2007, 12:48:48 PM »

Insta call. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2007, 12:50:12 PM »

So is the optimum way to play AA pre-flop in a cash game to shove?
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2007, 12:52:09 PM »

If you can get a caller then yes, it's ideal.

Most of the time you don't though, unless someone has KK.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2007, 12:57:48 PM »

The original post, and the replies are very similar to Kinboshi's post about calling with KK after a re-reaise from 400 to 10,000 in an APAT event...
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2007, 01:23:07 PM »

The original post, and the replies are very similar to Kinboshi's post about calling with KK after a re-reaise from 400 to 10,000 in an APAT event...

there is a massive difference between a cash game and a tourney though. Tounryes yo get knocked out of..cash you just reload
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2007, 01:30:24 PM »

Just because you can reload doesn't mean you should make a bad call. You can always go onto the next tournament anyway.

In a tournament you have to win all the chips (and so does everyone else) in a cash game you can do very nicely just by winning some, an approach that would lead to you blinding out in a tournament!
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