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Tonji
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« on: November 20, 2007, 02:29:00 PM » |
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Hi all, My Military history is lacking, I need some input on this photograph, its from the 1880s. Any ideas of the Regiment? Are they Officers? Many Thanks, Tonji. | Click to see full-size image. |
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Geo the Sarge
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 02:39:44 PM » |
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Not sure if it is a British group. The swords and pips on shoulders indicate officers if they were British. However there is a mix of with/without swords and with/without pips which makes it difficult to pinpoint whether it is a gathering of mixed ranks.
Also there seems to be 2 different shades of bands on the hats which may indicate differing units.
The type of tunic would indicate Hussars/Cavalry IMO.
Not a type of headdress I can remember seeing in many military photos.
There also seems to be a lack of cap badge which would also say to me non British (poss not military in the Regimental sense.)
Geo.
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Rod Paradise
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 02:41:32 PM » |
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The kepis don't look like anything worn by British troops - According to Wiki the French Cavalry wore a Kepi with a light blue band & a red crown.... that might fit the picture - especially with all the swords - only in the Cavalry would that many peoplle without more rank badges have had them I think. Sorry - no direct answer - but I'll pose the question to the militaria bods in the office  |
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 02:44:01 PM » |
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they cant be french....
there hands are by their sides...
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 02:44:57 PM » |
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must have been a shortage of shaving implements
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Geo the Sarge
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 03:15:44 PM » |
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Good call Rod,
The gent in the front left is also wearing long leather boots which certainly indicate Cavalry and i'd lean towards agreeing with the French comment.
Guy in middle has some sort of embroidered insignia, normally indicating SNCO so again leaning toward a troop foto with a mixture of ranks.
There is also a small banner with the guy front left but too grainy when blown up to really see.
geo
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 03:21:36 PM » |
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"I picked this team because they have a wealth of experience" says Steve McLaren after his selection for the England game against Croatia draws heavy criticism.
"What they lack in pace they more than make up for in swords", he adds.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 05:07:14 PM » |
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"I picked this team because they have a wealth of experience" says Steve McLaren after his selection for the England game against Croatia draws heavy criticism.
"What they lack in pace they more than make up for in swords", he adds.
You obviously made that up. Beckham and Lumpard aren't in the photo  |
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Robert HM
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 06:14:21 PM » |
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Agree with Geo that the tunics have a cavalry about them, due to the cut and the horizontal braiding. The epalet pips worrn by some indicate Commissioned Officers, the peak braiding also suggest this.
I'm not convinced that they are french as I think their kepis have a shorter peak and more don't point down, as in the picture.
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Tonji
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 06:37:11 PM » |
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Thanks guys,
So a group of Cavalry Soldiers & Officers. Possibly French.
Incidentally, could they be American?
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Robert HM
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 06:40:33 PM » |
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They don't strike me as Ammerican.
side note: they have parade standard head wear and such but not a medal between them, seemed strange.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 06:42:43 PM » |
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The guy seated on the right looks the old mountain man that knocked me out of the WSOP Seniors event this year!!
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Geo the Sarge
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 07:00:33 PM » |
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They don't strike me as Ammerican.
side note: they have parade standard head wear and such but not a medal between them, seemed strange.
The more I look at this the more baffled I become. I had mentioned the non appearance of cap badge, and looking through hoardes of Kepi's on Google they mostly have some sort of insignia/number of unit on them. What I find really curious though is the shiny peaks? What material would they have in those days that would make the peaks shine so much? Did they have plastics/vinyls way back then? Possibility of leather, however not a good choice as a leather peak covering, I would imagine would stretch and shrink with varying climates. I'm loving this BTW Tonji, never spent so long searching online in my life. I'll take more if you have them. Geo. |
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Ironside
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2007, 02:07:01 AM » |
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they look like boars to me
or dutch
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Ironside
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2007, 02:16:11 AM » |
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wait a minute did tikay not take this photo?
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