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« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2007, 10:24:24 PM »

ed i mean dan nope

if celtic and rangers were able to get the same money for media rights and prize money as the rest of the competing teams they would be able to compete in quailty of players and wages with the top teams due to there support

thus ensuring them a spot at the top table

currerently rangers and celtic hace 2nd rate players due to the fact they get a small fraction of the tv money the bigger nations get

Aha at last he speaks some sense. 
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« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2007, 10:24:56 PM »

ed i mean dan nope

if celtic and rangers were able to get the same money for media rights and prize money as the rest of the competing teams they would be able to compete in quailty of players and wages with the top teams due to there support

thus ensuring them a spot at the top table

currerently rangers and celtic hace 2nd rate players due to the fact they get a small fraction of the tv money the bigger nations get

so 2 teams who you admit have 2nd rate players would finish in the top 10 of europe every year. nonsense, utter nonsense. they'd struggle to finish top 10 in EPL
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« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2007, 10:25:24 PM »

ed i mean dan nope

if celtic and rangers were able to get the same money for media rights and prize money as the rest of the competing teams they would be able to compete in quailty of players and wages with the top teams due to there support

thus ensuring them a spot at the top table

currerently rangers and celtic hace 2nd rate players due to the fact they get a small fraction of the tv money the bigger nations get

Aha at last he speaks some sense. 


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« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2007, 10:25:38 PM »

i always speak sence you however rarely read what is written through your green tinted specs
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« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2007, 10:27:57 PM »

ed i mean dan nope

if celtic and rangers were able to get the same money for media rights and prize money as the rest of the competing teams they would be able to compete in quailty of players and wages with the top teams due to there support

thus ensuring them a spot at the top table

currerently rangers and celtic hace 2nd rate players due to the fact they get a small fraction of the tv money the bigger nations get

so 2 teams who you admit have 2nd rate players would finish in the top 10 of europe every year. nonsense, utter nonsense. they'd struggle to finish top 10 in EPL


with current squads they would be fighting relegation

but if they were all on an equal footing with tv income they wouldnt have current squads they would be able to offer bigger wages than all bar man u and chelsea in the epl and only a few otehr teams in europe could offer the same wages


the money teams get from TV income is huge factor in quailty of squads at present
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« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2007, 10:28:17 PM »

 

This is interesting. Very interesting.
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« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2007, 10:28:35 PM »

oh and on top of the tv money is the increase in shirt trackside and other sponsorship deals
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« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2007, 10:29:45 PM »

only part of the story

Scottish football does not have an Abramovich, Hicks or Glazer (or a City prepared to debt fund a Glazer) to provide limitless wealth over and above the TV money
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« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2007, 10:33:43 PM »

only part of the story

Scottish football does not have an Abramovich, Hicks or Glazer (or a City prepared to debt fund a Glazer) to provide limitless wealth over and above the TV money

none of the above are english and celtic and rangers would make ideal targets due to there support if they got onto a bigger stage such as the EPL or a UEFA league

now back to buisness anyone know the rangers score this weekend or even the celtic one due to christmas holidays i was unable to get a paper today
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« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2007, 10:34:31 PM »

oh and on top of the tv money is the increase in shirt trackside and other sponsorship deals

ok, so I know I'm mixing your argument with Bandit's

but why would one of the top 4 supported clubs worldwide need an increase in money from shirt sales. and surely with such a fanbase they should already be getting some of the best sponsorship deals in the game
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« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2007, 10:39:05 PM »

sponsors pay to get there advertising into millions of homes watching on tv

the scottish games dont get the neutral fans that other leagues get infact very few games are even shown

the EPL has hour long highlights for every game at the weekend shown live or not


the SPL get an hour long show shown in scotland only and in most countries no show at all

the EPL gets shown in every country worldwide nearly

so as a sponsor where would i put most of my money

i know i would give derby county much more this year than i would celtic or rangers
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« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2007, 10:41:40 PM »

is that cos they have kenny miller?
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« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2007, 10:42:00 PM »

aye that too
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« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2007, 10:48:14 PM »

oh and on top of the tv money is the increase in shirt trackside and other sponsorship deals



but why would one of the top 4 supported clubs worldwide need an increase in money from shirt sales. and surely with such a fanbase they should already be getting some of the best sponsorship deals in the game

Yes they should, but unfortunately its not as easy as that.  If Celtic and Rangers where to sell of individual rights to their games they'd make more in TV revenue than most other clubs in the world, however this is not possible due to a contractual agreements they have in place with the SPL.

In regards to shirt sponsorship, we have a deal with Carling that if in the Premiership would be worth 10 fold same as the deal we have with Nike.  

its ignorant to suggest that Celtic and Rangers would be lucky to finnish top 10 in the EPL thats just not true.  

All this has to be balanced up with your socio-political conscience as well, Celtic are in bed with two many corporate evils and personally I am not for us selling what soul we have left to the devil its bad enough we have Dr Death and Dermot "I'm so corrupt I should buy an Itallian club" Desmond, I am not sure that I would want some multi national capitalist coming into my club.  

However it seems we are going to get some investment from this fella that runs GAP.  He has just purchased 3.2% of ordinary Shares we will need to wait and see what happens.
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« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2007, 10:49:05 PM »

sponsors pay to get there advertising into millions of homes watching on tv

the scottish games dont get the neutral fans that other leagues get infact very few games are even shown

the EPL has hour long highlights for every game at the weekend shown live or not


the SPL get an hour long show shown in scotland only and in most countries no show at all

the EPL gets shown in every country worldwide nearly

so as a sponsor where would i put most of my money

i know i would give derby county much more this year than i would celtic or rangers

all true. maybe the SPL need a new marketting man as whoever's doing the job now is clearly crap.

he has the TV rights  to a league that I've today learnt contains 2 teams who would finish top 10 every year in a euroleague, 1 of whom is among the top 4 best supported clubs in the world and he can't even sell them outside of Scotland. I'd suggest someone needs sacking
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