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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2008, 08:47:49 PM »

Point taken about the environment.
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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2008, 08:52:28 PM »

Labour have created this situation

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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2008, 09:11:11 PM »

I love the UK and I can't imagine living permantley elsewhere. I think too many people have a grass is greener on the other side syndrome. I spent christmas in Egypt and i guarentee 99% of the population would be happy to swap their lives with a person who has 14k year job with credit card debt in the uk, you only have to look at the amount of Eastern europeans coming to this country doing menial jobs as it is better than life where they were at home.

We do have social problems though and M3boy's post echoes my thoughts. I worked briefly as a secondary school teacher before choosing the comparitively easy life of poker. It was at least weekly event maybe daily to get sworn at and witnessed pupils throwing punches at teachers, throwing chairs at them and all manner of other things. All this happened in the ghetto that is Melton Mowbray, in a comprehensive performing above national average results wise. Lets say I have no desire to get back into teaching at the current time, a tough profession these days a mixture of social worker, policeman and teacher now.

Kinboshi your school sounds rough as, but that kind of school is becoming alot more common than it was 15-20 years ago.
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2008, 09:21:18 PM »

Not too far from Melton Mowbray either.  It was in Corby in Northants.

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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2008, 09:45:04 PM »

This country is great Smiley

As for the comment about Labour and tax, rofl. I remember the poll tax, nuff said.

I agree with Longy, go live somewhere else and then tell us how you feel about the Uk. Where people say their skint with a 40" TV, consoles, mobiles phones and takeaways everynight.

Makes me laugh when people abroad constently tell me how great it is there. Maybe they have to tell us all the time to convince themselves.
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2008, 12:53:19 AM »

Where's better? 
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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2008, 01:30:39 AM »


As for the comment about Labour and tax, rofl. I remember the poll tax, nuff said.



LOL, council tax is much more relatively than the poll tax ever was, taxation as a whole is up massively under labour and the binmen refuse (Smiley) to come to my door.
I think i read somewhere it equates to nearly 50p in the pound, not funny.
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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2008, 01:44:17 AM »

Taxation as a whole massively up under Labour?? I disagree strongly, no proof for that statement.

Notice how the conservatives dont even bother to attack labour on the econ or taxes as its been solid for the last 10 years since the boom and bust. Health/schools etc but not taxes.


Labour remind me of the Clinton regime, people dont realise how good they have it until it all goes pear shapped afterwards
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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2008, 02:18:05 AM »

A five second google............

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article240541.ece

"The Centre for Policy Studies reported last month that Labour had introduced 45 new tax rises, double the number under the Tories after 1992, and that the net increase in taxation over the past four years has been £36 billion."

"Labour promised not to increase taxation at all. Thanks to Gordon Brown, there has been an increase by stealth, the equivalent of a 10p in the pound rise in income tax,"
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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2008, 02:31:11 AM »

the article is how old? and if u read it, it explains why they were initially increased.......due to a number of factors not all labours doing. 2001 article sure backs up that we have had to so so bad under labour. I dont have to google the fact if people want to work and earn a decent crust they can in this country.


To say labour somehow created "this situation" whatever you think it is, mystifies me.
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2008, 02:45:17 AM »

2002, that was just the beginning........
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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2008, 01:34:54 PM »

..and the binmen refuse (Smiley) to come to my door.

Wheely? 

But they have their reasons, don't they Wink
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« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2008, 08:32:18 AM »

"Although there are still issues with racism and homophobia in the UK, I'd say it's a better place to live now than it was 20, 30, 40 years ago."

I disagree with this statement so so so much.

Even in my short (and hopefully alot longer) life, I have seen so many changes in the behavour of children. These children are the future's adults - GOD HELP us is all I can say!

When I was school age, you had the minority of kids that were rude and badly behaved - now, it seems to be alot worse, and dare I say the other way around?

Who is to blame? We as parents MUST take some responsibility, but the blame (imo) lies with the "Do gooders" who have gone too far. Children have so much power now, and they know it, AND use it!

There was so much more respect when I was a kid. You knew how far you could push it without getting in trouble - some pushed it that little too much.
Now, kids know they can pretty do much as they like - nothing happens to them.

Take schools for example, 20-30 years ago if you were "out of line" you were punnished and your school day was miserable. Now, schools have no control and cannot stop a kid even if they want to run out of school, so what do they do if kids are "out of line"? Yep, you guessed it, they "exclude" them.
You would NEVER dream of shouting at a teacher, but nowadays it is all too common.

These children then leave school with the same attitude "No one can make me do anything I do not want to do". I beleive this to be the main reason why so many kids struggle to move into the "real" world when they reach adulthood.

This subject is close to my heart, as I have seen an immense change in my two youngest (3 and 5) since they have been at school. It is hard enough trying to bring up children, and made even harder by the fact that most of their waking day is spent at school who are powerless to teach them respect.

Ive rambled on, sorry.

I am late on this thread but couldnt agree more with you mate.
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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2008, 09:02:32 AM »

If people want to pine for the good old days of yesteryear, then they should do so without the internet, as it doesn't exist in your bygone era of perfection.

I'll also be taking your mobile phone and putting kak back on the television

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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2008, 04:05:41 PM »

If people want to pine for the good old days of yesteryear, then they should do so without the internet, as it doesn't exist in your bygone era of perfection.

I'll also be taking your mobile phone and putting kak back on the television



Putting kak BACK on TV? Like, it's good, now?
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