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« on: October 28, 2005, 10:59:23 AM »

Red Dog and I are on the same Crypto table last night in the £10k gtd

Just before the tournament starts, in the chat box:

Player 1: I'm going all in first hand, who'll join me?...He's seat 5

Player 2, in Seat 3...Yes, I'm up for it, LOL


Third party: If you do that I'll report you to support, it's cheating.

Player two....swear word swear word swear word with *** mixed in


First hand:

Player 2...All in

Player 1...All in

Player 2 has  As
Player 1 Has  three clubs

Player 1 is eliminated

I reported the players


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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2005, 11:07:33 AM »

I'd be amazed though if support did anything seeing as anything appears to go on that site, swearing racist chat, homophobia etc etc.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2005, 11:07:49 AM »

This is surely a clear case of chip dumping. Why mention it before hand ? Strange and very dodgy, definately an email to customer services. Proving it is a problem you cant enforce rules that tell people how to play their cards.
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2005, 11:09:20 AM »

I was the third party
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2005, 11:12:57 AM »

thank you Red, I wasn't going to say it was you unless you volunteered it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2005, 11:15:39 AM »

Is this collusion? Paul Phillips says he would happily do this first hand of WSOP in a folded round to SB BB situation. Is Paul Phillips a colluder?
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2005, 11:17:46 AM »

if he announces his intentions before then yes he is
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2005, 11:18:03 AM »

this was early position versus mid position
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2005, 11:19:47 AM »

I don't get this. You're saying you can't go all in in the dark? IE these guys hadn't seen their cards yet
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2005, 11:43:16 AM »

OK I'm genuinely confused. I'm pretty sure I remember the Paul Phillips post correctly because it gave me a lightbulb moment about gambling early in MTTs. I can't find the post now but are you saying that on the first hand of the WSOP you are in the SB and it is folded round to you. Both you and the BB have not looked at your cards and you both agree to go all in in the dark ie a true 50/50 gamble. Are you saying this is collusion? If so I'll email Paul and see if I can get him to respond. I may of course be remembering his post incorrectly. If this is not collusion then how is it different to what these online people are doing? The OP says they decided this BEFORE the tourney started ie all in in the dark.

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2005, 11:56:49 AM »

i must be missing something too Huh?
i don't see it as colluding if they don't know their cards, just gambling.
I'd be surprised if anything came of it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2005, 12:04:15 PM »

This is what I am wondering you see


Reporting for the terrible swearing etc to Red is fine on one level, chat can be banned etc

but is there anything else wrong?
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2005, 12:09:04 PM »

Yes  it should br reported cause of the swearing - most of you know my stance on chat boxes in poker sites, and the terrible way they are managed.

As for the all in's .. before they have seen their cards - get out of the way and look at it from the point of one person less to deal with an a stupid muppet who has lots of chips for you to remove from them.

I'd always be wary of playing anything unless it was spectacular the first couple of hands anyways - you want to know what is going on at your table.

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2005, 12:12:51 PM »


I'd always be wary of playing anything unless it was spectacular the first couple of hands anyways - you want to know what is going on at your table.


i sometimes raise the first few hands exactly for this reason Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2005, 12:15:25 PM »

Hang on folks lets look at it this way. Tighy and I are on the same table at the start of the comp. I phone him and say " lets both go in 1st hand , a early double up will give us more of an edge than we have at the moment " He agrees . Then the situation tighty described occurs. Still missing somthing?

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