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« on: January 14, 2008, 03:07:50 AM »

£100 freezout at Luton.

26 left. Blinds 150/300/25.

Just moved to new table. Limp in the cut off with  .

Button folds SB calls, BB makes it 700 more. I call, Button calls.

Flop    .

I have 11k approx. SB 4.5k ( any ace merchant, for the Luton regulars it's Keith) and the BB has 30k approx. Newbie to Luton and from what i gather has been in a lot of pots and hitting with a wide range.

SB moves all in, which is insta called by the BB. What should i do? Think i know the answer but would like your views.

Thanks in advance.

Vinny.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2008, 06:41:50 AM »

£100 freezout at Luton.

26 left. Blinds 150/300/25.

Just moved to new table. Limp in the cut off with  .

Button folds SB calls, BB makes it 700 more. I call, Button calls.
Flop    .

I have 11k approx. SB 4.5k ( any ace merchant, for the Luton regulars it's Keith) and the BB has 30k approx. Newbie to Luton and from what i gather has been in a lot of pots and hitting with a wide range.

SB moves all in, which is insta called by the BB. What should i do? Think i know the answer but would like your views.

Thanks in advance.

Vinny.

Get a ruling.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2008, 09:14:05 AM »

£100 freezout at Luton.

26 left. Blinds 150/300/25.

Just moved to new table. Limp in the cut off with  .

Button folds SB calls, BB makes it 700 more. I call, Button calls.

Flop    .

I have 11k approx. SB 4.5k ( any ace merchant, for the Luton regulars it's Keith) and the BB has 30k approx. Newbie to Luton and from what i gather has been in a lot of pots and hitting with a wide range.

SB moves all in, which is insta called by the BB. What should i do? Think i know the answer but would like your views.

Thanks in advance.

Vinny.

No others in the pot?

Limping int an unopened pot is just bad. Raise it next time..you have position. I really dislike the limp-call preflop.

On the flop against 2 others I'll call. expecting to be up against 2 pair and a decent ace.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2008, 09:54:53 AM »

Sounds like your drawing for your tourney life, I think fold...
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2008, 10:06:21 AM »

Make it 1k to go preflop, like Boldie I hate open limping especially from late position.

I think postflop is really quite tricky due to stack sizes. Our draw is clean and we are around 2 to 1 to get there by the river which around the immediate odds we are getting. The problem is that if we flat call here and miss the turn we will have to dump it there to a sizeable bet ,which is inevitable if the bb has hand. Shoving is not great as bb is likely to look us up and then we have created bad odds for ourselves in the pot. Folding is not a bad if slightly weak option.

I think without a clear read on bb, I'm hoping that he has some form of semi decent ace and will check it down. Therefore I think i call though i don't feel great about it.

Call > Fold > Raise Imo but I wouldn't be surprised to hear an argument for all options.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2008, 01:02:33 PM »

Raise preflop. Probably 1200.

Once the SB calls this and we have the same situation, it is alot easier decision because of the pot size in relation to our stack.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2008, 05:55:18 PM »

as played

against Keith's stack call

against the bb stack and facing a bet on the turn if he's any good.fold.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2008, 05:06:47 PM »

"I have the hand to crack your monster." You said as you called preflop. You flop your draw (which is what you wanted) super-sick odds huge pot as they move all-in. If you call pre and get the flop you wanted why fold now? If you call and win the pot you go on to final table it with that stack, and if you fold you may live but end up trying to over-milk your QQQ because your small-middle stacked and end up getting outdrawn :-)

I played a hand awhile back in the same tourny, raised with JJ- 4 callers, it comes down AJT rainbow. Im 100% sure someones called me pre with KQ and when everyone calls my coninuation bet (I've already decided to play this hand knowing I wanted the board to pair up, committing an all-in) the KQ holder decides to min-raise everyone. They all call so with the pot so huge I moved all-in and the board paired on the river. I managed to go on & chop it 4-way at the final table. Thats just how I like to play tournaments, with a decent stack im interested (from a cash player perspective though). And I think if you made that call there, yes your roughly 1/3 to make it but when you do I know your confident in making the final table with that stack, It's whether you feel by not making the call you can final table more than 1/3 by passing there but then questions why you called it preflop and said that in the first place? hehe.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2008, 12:36:29 AM »

You're absolutely right LutonGBoi. I played both hand terribly.  Particulary the 98 hand, i called looking for a 76x or something similar flop etc and when i hit what i wanted, i still folded. Would have had 26k if i played the hand correctly, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. still had 25 bb and was thrown by mateyboy in the BB instant calling. Will know better next time. Who are you by the way? Which seat where you in?

As for the QQ hand. Not sure if i could have played any diff? Raise pre, trap check flop, bet turn? Get humped on the river. Pretty standard for me
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