Beginning of the end for Rafa...

[The Camel]

Found a list of players Rafa has bought:

Josemi £2m  - WHO?
Antonio Nunez £2m - WHO?
Xabi Alonso £10.7m - Money well spent.
Luis Garcia £6m - £6 mill for one important goal..hmmm
Mauricio Pellegrino Free - PAST IT
Fernando Morientes £6.5m - BUST
Scott Carson £750,000 - FAIR GAMBLE
Antonio Baragan Compensation fee - WHO?
Jose Reina £6m - good buy
Mohammed Sissoko £5.6m - LOL
Boudewijn Zenden Free - LOL
Peter Crouch £7m - didn't fit in
Jack Hobbs £750,000 - better at cricket
Godwin Anti Free - ??
Miquel Roque Free - ??
Jan Kromkamp Swop for Josemi - RUBBISH
Paul Anderson Swop for John Welsh - ??
Daniel Agger £5.8m - ok
Craig Bellamy £6m - great for team spirit
Gabriel Paletta £2m - 3 Games in 3 seasons
Mark Gonzalez £4.5m - RUBBISH
Fabio Aurelio Free
Jermaine Pennant £6.7m -USELESS
Dirk Kuyt £9m - OVERPRICED DONK
Alvaro Arbeloa £2.64m - good buy
Andriy Voronin Free - USELESS
Lucas Leiva £6m - IF HE'S WORTH 6M, I MUST BE WORTH 7
Sebastien Leto £1.5m - NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Fernando Torres £20m -if you throw enough darts, one is bound to hit the bullseye i guiess
Yossi Benayoun £5m - ok
Ryan Babel £11m - OVERPRICED
Charles Itandje Free - overpriced at free

Kuyt's been one of the best and most consistent players in the Liverpool side over the past 24-months.  You obviously don't watch Liverpool play a lot.

A lot of the 'duds' were shipped out as soon as they didn't perform in the English league. 

You've missed Mascherano, Skrtel and Riera off that list.  But then again, they don't really help your cause do they?

He wouldn't get in the Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Aston Villa team.

He's hard working and a good team player, but as he was bought to score goals, he has palpably failed.

[kinboshi]

Found a list of players Rafa has bought:

Josemi £2m  - WHO?
Antonio Nunez £2m - WHO?
Xabi Alonso £10.7m - Money well spent.
Luis Garcia £6m - £6 mill for one important goal..hmmm
Mauricio Pellegrino Free - PAST IT
Fernando Morientes £6.5m - BUST
Scott Carson £750,000 - FAIR GAMBLE
Antonio Baragan Compensation fee - WHO?
Jose Reina £6m - good buy
Mohammed Sissoko £5.6m - LOL
Boudewijn Zenden Free - LOL
Peter Crouch £7m - didn't fit in
Jack Hobbs £750,000 - better at cricket
Godwin Anti Free - ??
Miquel Roque Free - ??
Jan Kromkamp Swop for Josemi - RUBBISH
Paul Anderson Swop for John Welsh - ??
Daniel Agger £5.8m - ok
Craig Bellamy £6m - great for team spirit
Gabriel Paletta £2m - 3 Games in 3 seasons
Mark Gonzalez £4.5m - RUBBISH
Fabio Aurelio Free
Jermaine Pennant £6.7m -USELESS
Dirk Kuyt £9m - OVERPRICED DONK
Alvaro Arbeloa £2.64m - good buy
Andriy Voronin Free - USELESS
Lucas Leiva £6m - IF HE'S WORTH 6M, I MUST BE WORTH 7
Sebastien Leto £1.5m - NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Fernando Torres £20m -if you throw enough darts, one is bound to hit the bullseye i guiess
Yossi Benayoun £5m - ok
Ryan Babel £11m - OVERPRICED
Charles Itandje Free - overpriced at free

Kuyt's been one of the best and most consistent players in the Liverpool side over the past 24-months.  You obviously don't watch Liverpool play a lot.

A lot of the 'duds' were shipped out as soon as they didn't perform in the English league. 

You've missed Mascherano, Skrtel and Riera off that list.  But then again, they don't really help your cause do they?

He wouldn't get in the Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Aston Villa team.

He's hard working and a good team player, but as he was bought to score goals, he has palpably failed.

It doesn't matter what he was brought in as.  He's not playing as a forward, and as a right-sided midfield player he's been excellent for us.

[Colchester Kev]

and Keane

[maldini32]

Camel i dont understand what that list is supposed to prove, you go through every top managers buys and you will always find  a few shitters.

If anyones to blame its Rick Parry cos hes been too slow to buy quality players when theyve become available (Vidic and Alves being two).
Xabi Alonos is one of the best playmakers in world football, so hes an absolute bargain at 10.7mil
Reina breaking records left right and centre so 6 mil another snip.
Sissoko did well for his while he was with us so more than happy what we paid for him and we got our money back when we shipped him back to juve.
Crouch was immense for us, he only didnt fit in once the best striker in the world joined us. Thats not Crouch's fault Rafa prefers the one man up front so it was obv gonna be Torres.
Putting OK next to Aggers taking the piss. If you can pick centre halves of the calibre of Agger for 5.8mil then you must be doing something right! The fact that Skirtel has been so good since hes been in the side is just unlucky for Agger.
Aurelio is one of the best left backs in the league, ok for a free.
Kuyt's scored quiet a few important goals, ill tell u what id rather have Kuyt in my team than a lazy twat like Berbatov when its time to grind out results at the end of the season. Hes deffo not an overpriced donk. He might not be my favourite liverpool player, but hes an integral part of our team.
Torres 20 mil, cheap for the best striker in the world.
Babel equals quality and hes another one who is unlucky with Rafas tactic of playing just one u front, cos he is a striker not a winger.

[maldini32]

If he was crap he wouldnt have won the spanish league twice, champions league, uefa cup, fa cup.

In Rafa we trust.

That is all.

[The Camel]

If he was crap he wouldnt have won the spanish league twice, champions league, uefa cup, fa cup.

In Rafa we trust.

That is all.

The players he inherited + Torres, Liverpool should have won the Premiership by now.

Instead they haven't remotely looked like winning it until the past week.

The reason is Rafa Benitez.

[Josedinho]

Don't really want to argue one war or another but i think for any one off game Rafa may be the best manager in the world. However i do believe he is still learning what it takes to win the league here. As the squad improves each year then maybe his rotating wouldn't make as much difference.

[kinboshi]

If he was crap he wouldnt have won the spanish league twice, champions league, uefa cup, fa cup.

In Rafa we trust.

That is all.

The players he inherited + Torres, Liverpool should have won the Premiership by now.

Instead they haven't remotely looked like winning it until the past week.

The reason is Rafa Benitez.

Why should they have won the Premiership by now?

Why should they be expected to beat Man U and Chelsea who have spent considerably more on players than Liverpool?

[kinboshi]

Don't really want to argue one war or another but i think for any one off game Rafa may be the best manager in the world. However i do believe he is still learning what it takes to win the league here. As the squad improves each year then maybe his rotating wouldn't make as much difference.

Ferguson rotates as much as Rafa does.  He can get away with it, as he has a much stronger squad.  He had numerous £20M+ players on the bench, never mind who's in the starting XI.

Rafa is building his side, his squad.  I still think he's 3 or 4 players short of what he wants - hopefully he'll be able to get this sorted in the summer. 

[Jim-D]

Hasn't it been proved that Liverpool and United have spent pretty much the same over the last 5 years?

[kinboshi]

Hasn't it been proved that Liverpool and United have spent pretty much the same over the last 5 years?

No it certainly hasn't.  Nowhere near.  I'll get the figures for the net spend, and Man U and Chelsea have spent far more than Liverpool.

[kinboshi]

In fact, did you read Dwayne's post on this thread?

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=30452.msg913929;topicseen#msg913929

[Jim-D]

I heard the net spend was only 3mil more spent by united and 70mil more spent by chelski?

[kinboshi]

I heard the net spend was only 3mil more spent by united and 70mil more spent by chelski?

Was that from George down at the pub who read it in the s*n?

[kinboshi]

Berbatov
Tevez
Carrick
Hargreaves
Rooney

That's 5 players who were bought in the last 5 years (there are obviously more).  How much did those 5 cost?