The Dealers in Brighton

[jizzemm]

Its a bit like being a football referee, do a good job, nobody notices... Cock it up and they pounce on you...

So true... I dealt on the table in stoke on Saturday night for the first 25 minutes, a couple of dealers short.. not probs, 1st mistake from the dealer when he arrived and their all asking for me back.. ffs, how is he meant to feel comfortable after that..

Dealers do a great job IMO, and i have not really come across a bad one, but then i dont play that much live...

[relaedgc]

When I was trained by the Grosvenor Casino Training Officer he literally said, "You're there to deal cards. The players are not your friends. They don't give a f*ck what you did at the weekend and they don't want to hear about your life. You're there to deal them cards and run the game."

That's -why- I try to do, with varying levels of success. Remember, we're always going to make mistakes. It's very easy to send a card skidding across the table too fast or forget to move the button.

I don't think it's wrong of a dealer to try and make light of a mistake. Obviously, they should apologise and make a clear effort at getting it right the second time. As Celtic mentioned, some of the dealers at our place take it a little too far, he's a work colleague and also a friend but I wouldn't dream of giving 'rub downs' and he really does take it too far sometime, but there you go.

I suppose it's all about if you want a robotic dealer or an entertainer. We have both, I think and also a medium between the two. We want you to have a good time, because if the table is having a good time then the chances are so are we. There are times that I can sit down and not even say a word and still enjoy it, but sometimes it's appropriate and enjoyable for the table when a dealer ventures opinions and discussions of their own.

So I have found, in my time as a card room dealer. It's far more personal and enjoyable than dealing table games, though the abuse is certainly worse. Double edged sword, I guess.

wrong attitude from the trainer IMO, the dealer should ( most at luton do) be involved in the table banter, when i said Billy gives rub downs, he give them to me, haven't noticed him give them to anyone else but i give them back, and that makes it more enjoyable for me and the rest of the table. I've had some miserable nights sitting there with a quiet dealer and quiet players, it doesnt make for good poker. Give me Phil Cooklin, Tikay & Billy on the table everynight and i'd be a happy man.

That's how it should be Celtic; We want to have fun and so do the players ( I hope ). Billy is the best man for that.

As for the trainer, well, let's face it - most of us don't abide by the "shut up and deal" rule, love it or hate it. I don't personally think it's a bad thing.

I guess it depends if players want to sit and be miserable all night or have a laugh at the same time. I appreciate there is a time and a place for it, and some situations require that the table is not laughing on joking; but on the whole? Why not. Enjoy yourself. If you don't like it, politely tell a supervisor and I am sure they'll speak to the dealer about it. When next he deals, he'll tone it down.

That saves you both an awkward situation and is the politest way of dealing with it.

[The Nomad]

Shut the fu...... up and deal is ok  but try keeping a straight face when Ulliots in full flow putting people to the metaphorical sword. Punters have been bitchin about the standard of dealers going down for as long as I can remember over 30 years at the last count funny that the wages have been going in the same direction as well.You get what you pay for.......

[Colchester Kev]

why are all you young single lads all dealing in provincial cardrooms, get your arses on the big cruise ships and see a bit of the world

[relaedgc]

why are all you young single lads all dealing in provincial cardrooms, get your arses on the big cruise ships and see a bit of the world

I'm only staying until my share save scheme matures and then I'm selling up and going travelling.

[M3boy]

IMO Dealers should be both confident/good AND get involved in table banter - they must know where to draw the line though.

There was a dealer at Binnions, Mike ( there is a pic of him on my blog). He is without doubt THE best dealer I have ever seen, so so quick ( No offence to Billy, but he would make him look like a trainee), vary rarely made a mistake.

You could tell he had been dealing a long time, but his opening line was "go easy on me boys, I only started dealing last week"

He was a good craic as well.

[TightEnd]

why are all you young single lads all dealing in provincial cardrooms, get your arses on the big cruise ships and see a bit of the world

I'm only staying until my share save scheme matures and then I'm selling up and going travelling.

a Rank plc share save?


now that's an optimist 

[JaffaCake]

I have to say while Stuart is robably right in that Kremser's EPT dealers are a class above, I think the GUKPT lot are first class. Kremser gets the best of the best but below that I personally feel the standards in the UK are defo second to none Europe wide, with maybe only vegas the exception. Jon Raab and the powers that be have filled a niche beautifully with the GUKPT, with great structured events available domestically in the UK monthly give or take. The tour is structured, set up and run with players in mind and the staff areof the same mindset. At each leg we see the same staff, we have fun with them, have a drink afterwards with them and moan at them when they deal us outdraws. The closeness and the banter is part of the tour as far as I'm concerned. I wasn't in Brighton, I stayed out in the Bahamas and am now in New York ready for the Ladbrokes cruise, but have been out here with some of the Scandi boys ready for the cruise and they are so jealous of the tour we have domestically, which not only gives us all a decent event to play a month but a chance of winning a decent amount. They have no such tour and are  jealous of the work jon and his team put in. Sometimes all is not perfect, but the GUKPT staff have always been first class in my experience and provide a great stepping stone for us all to move from domestic to the highest tournies smoothly.

Oh and by the way, from this side of the pond me and all the boys I'm with followed the updates, and as hilarious as Mick McCool's comments were, we didn't agree and preferred to follow the update and really enjoy as per...great updates snoops xxx

[The Nomad]

Kremser gets the best of the best because these dealers paid a lot of money to learn how to deal the games  and I do mean Games .Any Idiot can deal HE u try dealing under pressure OH hi lo split or 2-7 double draw lowball. I did notice a Training school at the DTD 2-3 weeks you must be joking these people will not be poker dealers they will be starting on the road to be dealers.I do seem to remember a Croupier at the CCC recently Passing a comment that the player could fuck off needless to say he no longer works there.  If you want to address the speed issue the dealer that makes it look easy and smoothis by far the fastest any dealers on here will know what I am talking About just like anybody who knows about computers  and typriters knows I do not have a clue

[relaedgc]

I've sort of fallen on my feet since I started dealing d/c games. I'm the least experienced of those of us in our crew that deal it, but I haven't really found it to be as gut wrenchingly difficult as I expected it was going to be.

And, to be honest, if I can deal OH hi-low split then anybody can.


And yes, Richard, a rank plc share save scheme. One well worth the investment!

[dealerFROMhell]

Any monkey can deal tournaments.

High stakes cash games are where it's at.

[relaedgc]

Any monkey can deal tournaments.

High stakes cash games are where it's at.

I was talking about cash games. =P

[owen1923]

Why wouldnt you want dealers to be invovled in table banter?

on many occaisions when playing in a strange card room it is the dealers who make you feel at home.  much worse are some of the miserable foul mouthed players I have a problem with.

If you just want an autumaton to chuck cards at you invest in a poker pro.

[77dave]

I've sort of fallen on my feet since I started dealing d/c games. I'm the least experienced of those of us in our crew that deal it, but I haven't really found it to be as gut wrenchingly difficult as I expected it was going to be.

And, to be honest, if I can deal OH hi-low split then anybody can.


And yes, Richard, a rank plc share save scheme. One well worth the investment!

Last night was the first time i have had you deal to me in the dealers game and i think you did a great job. I was suprised to hear you have only been dealing it for 2 days as i assumed it was a lot longer as you did a great job.  keep it up  well done

[relaedgc]

I've sort of fallen on my feet since I started dealing d/c games. I'm the least experienced of those of us in our crew that deal it, but I haven't really found it to be as gut wrenchingly difficult as I expected it was going to be.

And, to be honest, if I can deal OH hi-low split then anybody can.


And yes, Richard, a rank plc share save scheme. One well worth the investment!

Last night was the first time i have had you deal to me in the dealers game and i think you did a great job. I was suprised to hear you have only been dealing it for 2 days as i assumed it was a lot longer as you did a great job.  keep it up  well done

Thanks. Not so smooth tonight, though. Still. Could have been far worse.