Ascribing a range

[TightEnd]

What would be sick is if he paid the extra 1700 with something like KQ!

his hand?

 


50p

[Longy]

I nearly replied last night with stick it in, but then thought about it. To be honest im not sure.

I don't im ever folding on the flop here but if we push aren't only getting looked by a range that has us massively beat. Whereas if check and let him bet at it surely this range is bigger than his calling range. Therefore we are opening up his range which our hand plays better against.

Obviously the trouble is if it goes check and a scare cards rolls off on the turn.

[AlexMartin]

LOL@ push only gets called by hands that beat us. Guy is a moron, he proved that preflop.

Unless i had information to the contrary, i would assume he is a donktastic station and jam this flop everyday hoping he calls with whatever junk pair he has. He obv isnt aggressive and i dont see why giving him a free card is all that useful, as he wont be betting enough of the time to make that line stronger.

[MANTIS01]

Checking the flop also gives you the chance to see how this guy looks/acts. You may be able to pick-up on something. You don't get the chance to pick-up on anything if you push.

[Tragic]

Donking it all in gets you called by plenty of small pairs. Rag ace that pair. And AQ cos he knows ur bluffing. Playing it like a set of kings so u "get paid by weaker hands"? It's valid thinking against non-retards but this guy is not a non-retard

[MANTIS01]

Before the hand he was an unknown so we didn't know his level of retardation.

[TightEnd]

Before the hand he was an unknown so we didn't know his level of retardation.

but you have a fair idea by the time the flop is dealt, no?

[MANTIS01]

I think it's a good way to play Aces if you will be tagged as a retard by opponents who don't know anything about you.

[ifm]

Who plays aces like this??
Straightforward push, the only hand i'd be wary of is AK and i he has it we suck out 0.00006% of the time anyway.

[GlasgowBandit]

What would be sick is if he paid the extra 1700 with something like KQ!

his hand?

 


50p

I said my reads where spot on in another thread  
I actually had this in my initial reply and then discounted it - main reason being I wouldn't expect someone in what is effectively a £100 comp to be playing this hand to a raise and then a re-raise.  What is he hoping to beat?

[MANTIS01]

Who plays aces like this??  

I think I will next time. It's going to be my new secret weapon...."the retard play".

[Tragic]

What's the benefit of this sneaky play with AA though, raise pre and i'll stack it to you anyway .

[Sonic]

Without strong live tells there are only two choices that make any sense here, and they are a) push all in and b) check hoping opponent will push all in. They are probably pretty close and which one I choose would depend on the opponent.


If UTG+1 has Aces then he has made a perfect play, not a retard play. He probably got very lucky to see so much action after he limped, but once it gets back round to him flat calling 1800 is much much better than pushing all in.

[ifm]

If UTG+1 has Aces then he has made a perfect play, not a retard play. He probably got very lucky to see so much action after he limped, but once it gets back round to him flat calling 1800 is much much better than pushing all in.

Not at all, it's obvious tighty likes his hand preflop so with aces you should exploit that, there are many hands that folks will put all their chips in preflop and considerably less will stay committed post flop with overcards.
Say an ace dropped here, would tighty still be pushing?
Horrible way to play aces if he had them of coursewhich he didn't making this moot.

[MANTIS01]

UTG+1 limps for 100. A player in mp raises to 300. That raise is called in 2 places. The action reaches you and you look down to find Q-Q. You raise it up to 1,800...making it obvious you like your hand. It gets back to UTG+1 who now pushes all-in.

Who calls here? And what hand would you put UTG+1 on?

I think UTG+1's play would make Aces transparant. A lot of people have said they snap push the flop regardless. This shows that the most obvious slow play is still very effective in poker....because you are just tagged as a retard.