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jpean
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« on: February 10, 2008, 11:46:50 PM »

Hi all... Did I made an error on that hand Huh?

I know that the third raise means the Aces... but was it possible to fold here Huh?

I dont think only calling here was good, is it ?

PokerStars Game #15200297773: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/02/10 - 18:38:11 (ET)
Table 'Oljato' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: slimthing ($7.65 in chips)
Seat 2: Turnipulis ($9.95 in chips)
Seat 3: pluggy47 ($10.45 in chips)
Seat 4: shookwell ($9.85 in chips)
Seat 5: julienfetus ($11.60 in chips) ME
Seat 6: Smoosie07 ($7.50 in chips)
julienfetus: posts small blind $0.05
Smoosie07: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to julienfetus [ ]
slimthing: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Turnipulis: folds
pluggy47: calls $0.30
shookwell: raises $1.20 to $1.50
julienfetus: raises $3.50 to $5
Smoosie07: folds
slimthing: folds
pluggy47: raises $3.50 to $8.50
shookwell: folds
julienfetus: raises $3.10 to $11.60 and is all-in
pluggy47: calls $1.95 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] [three clubs]
*** RIVER *** [ three clubs] [three diamonds]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
julienfetus: shows [ ] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
pluggy47: shows [ ] (a full house, Aces full of Threes)
pluggy47 collected $21.70 from pot

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2008, 11:54:31 PM »


The way the preflop betting went it is impossible to fold after you have put in $5.  Next time hit the King.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 05:45:08 AM »

yes. Fold kings preflop next time.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 02:22:03 PM »

I have been very angry after that, because it was a table with a super Fish... and after that, my bankroll did'nt allow me to stand there...

but with a uncredible session today , I have win all I loose that time... and more...

but guys, you disagree each others... can I have more explanation please ??
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2008, 02:33:46 PM »

I have been very angry after that, because it was a table with a super Fish... and after that, my bankroll did'nt allow me to stand there...

but with a uncredible session today , I have win all I loose that time... and more...

but guys, you disagree each others... can I have more explanation please ??

Alex is (I assume) being sarcastic.  Sarcasm is taught to all children in Britain at an early age and is used at every opportunity.  This can cause confusion with other nationalities.....

You really played the hand ok in the circumstances.  Once you have put so much in the pot with your first raise, you shouldn't fold as at microstakes there are players who will have a worse hand than KK fairly often.

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2008, 02:36:28 PM »

jpean if you never fold KK when playing a maximum of 5 players with a maximum of 100ish big blinds you will on the whole never be making a mistake.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2008, 02:47:04 PM »

LOL 5 seconds after I make that post

Seat 1: Howard12 ($56.91 in chips)
Seat 2: Eldorko ($192.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Fluffydog ($69.97 in chips)
Seat 4: Just21039 ($117.07 in chips)
Seat 5: Zedc01017 ($20 in chips)
Seat 6: Slam_dunk ($109.90 in chips)
Howard12: posts small blind $0.50
Eldorko: posts big blind $1
Zedc01017: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Just21039 [ ]
Fluffydog: folds
Just21039: raises to $5
Zedc01017: folds
Slam_dunk: folds
Howard12: raises to $56.91 and is all-in
Eldorko: folds
Just21039: calls $51.91
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Howard12: shows [ Ah] (Three of a kind, Aces, Queen high)
Just21039: shows [ ] (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
Howard12 collected $112.82 from Main pot

alex is clearly correct Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2008, 02:49:03 PM »

Alex is (I assume) being sarcastic.  Sarcasm is taught to all children in Britain at an early age and is used at every opportunity.  This can cause confusion with other nationalities.....
Yes I'm french, and I have on the whole some difficulties to understand some english expression so it's why I did'nt understand it was sarcasm... thank you explaining that.

You really played the hand ok in the circumstances.  Once you have put so much in the pot with your first raise, you shouldn't fold as at microstakes there are players who will have a worse hand than KK fairly often.

So do you thin that after the button's raise x5, I could do something else that re-raising him x3.5 Huh?
it's true that if I called, I would probably have fold after the Ace on the flop, but I did'nt want that someone with AQ or AK hit it...
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2008, 02:51:13 PM »

LOL 5 seconds after I make that post

Seat 1: Howard12 ($56.91 in chips)
Seat 2: Eldorko ($192.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Fluffydog ($69.97 in chips)
Seat 4: Just21039 ($117.07 in chips)
Seat 5: Zedc01017 ($20 in chips)
Seat 6: Slam_dunk ($109.90 in chips)
Howard12: posts small blind $0.50
Eldorko: posts big blind $1
Zedc01017: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Just21039 [ ]
Fluffydog: folds
Just21039: raises to $5
Zedc01017: folds
Slam_dunk: folds
Howard12: raises to $56.91 and is all-in
Eldorko: folds
Just21039: calls $51.91
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Howard12: shows [ Ah] (Three of a kind, Aces, Queen high)
Just21039: shows [ ] (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
Howard12 collected $112.82 from Main pot

alex is clearly correct Smiley


   I had adviced you that puting all-in the cut off with KK on the SB meant set of Aces on the flop lol
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2008, 02:55:35 PM »

So do you thin that after the button's raise x5, I could do something else that re-raising him x3.5 Huh?
it's true that if I called, I would probably have fold after the Ace on the flop, but I did'nt want that someone with AQ or AK hit it...

You played fine - don't concern yourself with the outcome of this hand.  Aggressive play with strong hands is the key to winning poker.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2008, 02:59:02 PM »

So do you thin that after the button's raise x5, I could do something else that re-raising him x3.5 Huh?
it's true that if I called, I would probably have fold after the Ace on the flop, but I did'nt want that someone with AQ or AK hit it...

You played fine - don't concern yourself with the outcome of this hand.  Aggressive play with strong hands is the key to winning poker.

ok... thanks to all...
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2008, 07:42:37 PM »

unless i was in a major tourney and it was first round i don't think i would ever fold kk and i'm a pretty tight player i especially wudnt in a cash game. Maybe am wrong though Huh???
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 10:50:59 AM »

unless i was in a major tourney and it was first round i don't think i would ever fold kk and i'm a pretty tight player i especially wudnt in a cash game. Maybe am wrong though Huh???

no you're right for 100 BB's you can't fold KK in a cash game.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2008, 10:56:08 AM »

unless i was in a major tourney and it was first round i don't think i would ever fold kk and i'm a pretty tight player i especially wudnt in a cash game. Maybe am wrong though Huh???

no you're right for 100 BB's you can't fold KK in a cash game.

smartmoney says you can.........
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2008, 11:03:19 AM »

unless i was in a major tourney and it was first round i don't think i would ever fold kk and i'm a pretty tight player i especially wudnt in a cash game. Maybe am wrong though Huh???

no you're right for 100 BB's you can't fold KK in a cash game.

smartmoney says you can.........

really?.
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