Poker Week?

[boldie]

i agree you can see the club is done on the cheap nothing in the show except for the interviews some of which i have liked,no reason for the show to be more than 15min though,i have been thinking of sending sky an email about how they treat poker players who have sky, you would think they would give us some sort of benifit £55 a month full package for years and not even a added tournament just for sky users ,just shows how they dont want to spend that much on poker.

Plus it must be self financing now with all the juice on tournies and the rake in cash games. It would be v.interesting to see what they are raking off the top. In fact if you add all the extra roulette / casino games / quiz programmes that the punters are spending their coffers it must add up to millions.

If I know one thing about Sky...and I do (know one thing, that is)..it's that it's not a charity and will never be run as one...Sky (and the entire Murdoch empire) will always squeeze a pound out of a penny if they can. They sure didn't start up Skypoker because they thought they could breakeven..of course they saw it as a license to print money, and they are doing it very cleverly. They are a good money making business over there at BSkyB (and deserve some respect for that) so you can be pretty sure they are making good money off of this.

[MrsBoldie]

i agree you can see the club is done on the cheap nothing in the show except for the interviews some of which i have liked,no reason for the show to be more than 15min though,i have been thinking of sending sky an email about how they treat poker players who have sky, you would think they would give us some sort of benifit £55 a month full package for years and not even a added tournament just for sky users ,just shows how they dont want to spend that much on poker.

Plus it must be self financing now with all the juice on tournies and the rake in cash games. It would be v.interesting to see what they are raking off the top. In fact if you add all the extra roulette / casino games / quiz programmes that the punters are spending their coffers it must add up to millions.

If I know one thing about Sky...and I do (know one thing, that is)..it's that it's not a charity and will never be run as one...Sky (and the entire Murdoch empire) will always squeeze a pound out of a penny if they can. They sure didn't start up Skypoker because they thought they could breakeven..of course they saw it as a license to print money, and they are doing it very cleverly. They are a good money making business over there at BSkyB (and deserve some respect for that) so you can be pretty sure they are making good money off of this.

Otherwise they wouldn't be able to pay me the pennies and keep Boldie happy!

[steeveg]

i agree rupert murdoch is a very clever ruthless business man, i think its the thrill of seeing your play and hand analysed on the telly which makes the open so popular, thats fine and it will succeed but making as much money from sky poker should not be his number 1 consideration, yes make a profit but show a bit of goodwill to sky customers, at present we get nothing, its not good for customer satisfaction, its no good him saying we value you as a customer when he doesn't prove it by giving us something to make us feel special. its just another thing which makes me look at sky in a bad light ,this just adds to me thinking is it worth the money having sky. £55+£10 for setanta,

[boldie]

i agree rupert murdoch is a very clever ruthless business man, i think its the thrill of seeing your play and hand analysed on the telly which makes the open so popular, thats fine and it will succeed but making as much money from Sky Poker should not be his number 1 consideration, yes make a profit but show a bit of goodwill to sky customers, at present we get nothing, its not good for customer satisfaction, its no good him saying we value you as a customer when he doesn't prove it by giving us something to make us feel special. its just another thing which makes me look at sky in a bad light ,this just adds to me thinking is it worth the money having sky. £55+£10 for setanta,

Yeah but where will you take your business? You could go to Virgin but you'd have to change your phoneline and miss Sky1 and all that. There is no competition for Sky and there won't be so they don't really have to do a lot for customer satisfaction (though they will publically of course always claim they are "continuing to strive to meet and exceed their customers expectations" or some bollox like that)

[steeveg]

yes thats it in a nutshell, they think you will moan but what will you do about it,well as i say its just another thing to make you look at sky in a bad light which would influence you if and when you decided to get rid of sky

[Acidmouse]

'The Club'

Interesting idea, but crucially without the personalities poker shows can be very dull.

The thought of having to watch people analyze players hands (which always seem to be bad beats, what do they expect with crap shoot structures!) is beyond dull.

The guests are not really guests but people from the same studio who happen to be presenting that nights Sky Poker, sounds fun right?

Bring me Poker week any day, the banter, the on location reports and a real in depth coverage of proper poker.

How can you base any poker show (which claims to provide tips and information to improve your game) around Sky Poker that has possibly the worst structures online, designed to encourage bad play. Hey if its aimed at people who don't want to play fine.

[ripple11]

Scrap "The Club"

Start  "Poker Week" sponsored by Sky Poker.

[Graham C]

I thought it was a SP program anyway?

Scrap them all, film a Blonde Poker week and have it as an internet program only.

Only  happy to help

Tikay and Compo can host for free and I have a camcorder thing that I can use - what more can you need?

[steeveg]

i think for the show to work live on tv it has to be a fast structure,the only way to change this is for the tournament to start a few hours before the show goes on air ,but it wouldnt be live which is the whole point i suppose, a lot of players have learnt a lot from the show and know they should play a different type of game in another structure,and yeah you do get very bad players but they will improve by watching the show just like everyone else does when they are learning,sky poker is for amateurs and i thought poker week did show the poker scene in the uk for amateurs who play and want to play in the next level in the uk poker scene.except for the odd guest the club is no different to the open show on every night to me.

[scottbufc]

i think for the show to work live on tv it has to be a fast structure,the only way to change this is for the tournament to start a few hours before the show goes on air ,but it wouldnt be live which is the whole point i suppose, a lot of players have learnt a lot from the show and know they should play a different type of game in another structure,and yeah you do get very bad players but they will improve by watching the show just like everyone else does when they are learning,Sky Poker is for amateurs and i thought poker week did show the poker scene in the uk for amateurs who play and want to play in the next level in the uk poker scene.except for the odd guest the club is no different to the open show on every night to me.

I have to agree with this, the standard on the site is so bad, I dont know why I still play on there been sucked out on twice today and it just leaves me thinking why the hell are you calling preflop with that junk, people on sky love any ace and suited cards.

[RED-DOG]

i think for the show to work live on tv it has to be a fast structure,the only way to change this is for the tournament to start a few hours before the show goes on air ,but it wouldnt be live which is the whole point i suppose, a lot of players have learnt a lot from the show and know they should play a different type of game in another structure,and yeah you do get very bad players but they will improve by watching the show just like everyone else does when they are learning,Sky Poker is for amateurs and i thought poker week did show the poker scene in the uk for amateurs who play and want to play in the next level in the uk poker scene.except for the odd guest the club is no different to the open show on every night to me.

I have to agree with this, the standard on the site is so bad, I dont know why I still play on there been sucked out on twice today and it just leaves me thinking why the hell are you calling preflop with that junk, people on sky love any ace and suited cards.

Do you want them to call with the best hand or the worst hand?

[scottbufc]

i think for the show to work live on tv it has to be a fast structure,the only way to change this is for the tournament to start a few hours before the show goes on air ,but it wouldnt be live which is the whole point i suppose, a lot of players have learnt a lot from the show and know they should play a different type of game in another structure,and yeah you do get very bad players but they will improve by watching the show just like everyone else does when they are learning,Sky Poker is for amateurs and i thought poker week did show the poker scene in the uk for amateurs who play and want to play in the next level in the uk poker scene.except for the odd guest the club is no different to the open show on every night to me.

I have to agree with this, the standard on the site is so bad, I dont know why I still play on there been sucked out on twice today and it just leaves me thinking why the hell are you calling preflop with that junk, people on sky love any ace and suited cards.

Do you want them to call with the best hand or the worst hand?

I dont want to give bad beat stories but the amount of outdraws is ridiclous, and its the same old story whenever I need to gamble and push with something marginal I never outdraw.

[Grier78]

i think for the show to work live on tv it has to be a fast structure,the only way to change this is for the tournament to start a few hours before the show goes on air ,but it wouldnt be live which is the whole point i suppose, a lot of players have learnt a lot from the show and know they should play a different type of game in another structure,and yeah you do get very bad players but they will improve by watching the show just like everyone else does when they are learning,Sky Poker is for amateurs and i thought poker week did show the poker scene in the uk for amateurs who play and want to play in the next level in the uk poker scene.except for the odd guest the club is no different to the open show on every night to me.

I have to agree with this, the standard on the site is so bad, I dont know why I still play on there been sucked out on twice today and it just leaves me thinking why the hell are you calling preflop with that junk, people on sky love any ace and suited cards.

Do you want them to call with the best hand or the worst hand?

I dont want to give bad beat stories but the amount of outdraws is ridiclous, and its the same old story whenever I need to gamble and push with something marginal I never outdraw.

I think you will probably find that on average you will outdraw someone between 25% and 40% of the time, if not then you need to increase your sample size.

[Ismene]

First off - I must declare an interest by the fact that i work for Sky.

However - i think  some of you are missing a huge opportunity..

 You KNOW that sky suits pay attention to the Blonde poker community - so in effect you have the possibility to influence new poker programming that you would like to watch. Instead of constructive criticism however it becomes a really negative thread about "The Club" and Sky as a business. What is the point in moaning? If you're desperate for a poker show that is "credible" to a discerning poker palate - verbalise the future rather than rose tint the past - name those elements that you desire and you may be surprised at who listens.


This is not meant as an attack - rather an encouragement for constructive critique rather than negativity. The palate of a poker player is difficult and varied to cater for - but one that we strive to delight rather than satisfy.

I hope that this is received in the spirit I write  and look forward to hearing some of your ideas...

[celtic]

ok, here's my idea.

Dump the wooden tops that do the wooden show 'the club' its poop!!! Get a big bloke in a dodgy suite and an old guy with a blonde hairpiece and get them to do a half hour slot every week following REAL poker and REAL people in REAL tourneys. Real life interviews with the chaacters of the game. People that can give advise rather than advise from someone who has just luckboxed his way through 600 people in a £5 comp and scooped £300 or something like that.It's boring.

Thanks.